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  • #81
    people who hate on him tend to forget his early career at the lower weights and focus on the money persona and the whole attitude of 'find the easiest way to win' over 12 rounds in the majority of his fights but when he was approaching 40 he had some damn good wins

    his whitewash win over canelo is looking better each time ginger fights
    he beat cotto in a tough fight at 154 a fighter they said was finished then went on to win the MW title
    beat fighter of the decade pacquaio and made it look fairly easy far easier than anyone else has

    im sure people will come running in shouting catchweight with canelo, torn shoulder, IV ect but im going on what will be written in history future generations will be more impressed with floyds career than the current generation

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
      Mayweather has not have any Prime A-level fighter in his resume. Sugar Ray Leonard has two of it (Hearns, Duran, Benitez.) Muhammad Ali has 3 of it (Frazier, Foreman, Norton) And Pac has 3 of it (Bradley, Marquez, Barrera) Those are Incredible resumes, not the "World Level" fighters in Guerrero or Ortiz and passed it Pac and Cotto.
      Question what makes Bradley a prime A class fighter and not Judah,Hatton or Corrales?

      Corrales and Hatton were both prime undefeated and on the p4p list and Judah was prime and a 2 division champion and former lineal 147 champ

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      • #83
        Originally posted by larry x.. View Post
        Question what makes Bradley a prime A class fighter and not Judah,Hatton or Corrales?

        Corrales and Hatton were both prime undefeated and on the p4p list and Judah was prime and a 2 division champion and former lineal 147 champ
        Corrales was nowhere near prime when he fought Mayweather. He spent most of his time dealing with divorce and court legal issues, and he was going to prison after the fight, so I doubt Corrales was 'prime' there.

        Judah as been beaten by every big fights he is in, he got beat by Baldomir! Hatton is a B+ Fighter at welterweight, he got a gift against Collazo a B-level fighter, and even then I don't consider the Pac KO loss to him an ATG great win even when they fought at hatton's best weight class at 140.

        While Bradley at 140 schooled everybody in his weight class Campbell, Peterson etc. etc. Then fought a masterclass fight against Marquez at 147, BRAWLED against a fighter that you should absolutely not brawl with and showed the world he is 2 levels above to such fighters like Rios and Vargas.

        Bradley is an A level HOF

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
          Judah as been beaten by every big fights he is in, he got beat by Baldomir! Hatton is a B+ Fighter at welterweight, he got a gift against Collazo, and even then I don't consider the Pac KO loss to him an ATG great win even when they fought at hatton's best weight class at 140.

          While Bradley at 140 schooled everybody in his weight class Campbell, Peterson etc. etc. Then fought a masterclass fight against Marquez at 147, BRAWLED against a fighter that you should absolutely not brawl with and showed the world he is 2 levels above to such fighters like Rios and Vargas.

          Bradley is an A level HOF
          who did Bradley beat at 147 worth a damn?? a 40 year old Jmm?? Judah was lineal at 147 for crying out loud..And Hatton and Corrales were undefeated prime p4p fighters...no way they were not A class wins..stop being biased..Rios and Vargas are garbage and have done jack **** at 147

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          • #85
            Floyd was amazing, he could avoid combos like nothing, then counter with a blazing jab. ..then suddenly be in the middle of the ring like nothing happened, does this round after round wearing the opponent down mentally and physically. I think he could have stopped a few more guys late in fights but he didn't want to risk it.

            I think he should stay retired. He no longer has the offensive arsenal he once had.

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            • #86
              Mayweather was very self-critical and aware of what his fans would say, that's why the second Castillo fight happened, but you'll always get people who hate someone who's wildly successful in all areas of life. I expect the hate, but the cherry picking accusations are beyond ******ed.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by larry x.. View Post
                who did Bradley beat at 147 worth a damn?? a 40 year old Jmm?? Judah was lineal at 147 for crying out loud..And Hatton and Corrales were undefeated prime p4p fighters...no way they were not A class wins..stop being biased..Rios and Vargas are garbage and have done jack **** at 147
                Corrales? You mean the guy whose training camp was in the court dealing with divorce then going to be sent to prison? And also, who did Corrales beat? Castillo? He got KTFO by Casamayor. And Hatton fought at 147 after got a gift against a B-level fighter in Collazo. And who did Bradley beat at 147? Marques who was just coming at a KTOY against Manny Pacquiao, and was 2 levels above Rios and Vargas in his showcase fights. Hell, Danny Garcia refused to fight him!

                I know you like Mayweather man, but the Illusion of his undefeated record is fighting the right person at the right time. Mayweather never fought an A-level fighter in his prime.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                  Corrales? You mean the guy whose training camp was in the court dealing with divorce then going to be sent to prison? And also, who did Corrales beat? Castillo? He got KTFO by Casamayor. And Hatton fought at 147 after got a gift against a B-level fighter in Collazo.
                  Man you can say this about most fighters wins. In your own post you glossed over the fact Bradley's best win is over an old man.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Jiub View Post
                    Man you can say this about most fighters wins. In your own post you glossed over the fact Bradley's best win is over an old man.
                    Oh no, an Old man? How about Prime Devon Alexander, Prime Lamont Peterson, fighters such as Nate Campbell, and Marquez who was coming of ont he greatest knock out punch ever, who was confident as hell and was the heavy favorite to beat Bradley.

                    But in reality, if we dissect each other's career, it isn't much if we put Muhammad Ali, Leonard, Robinson on the dissecting table and how their careers like how fans do to Pac and May.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                      Oh no, an Old man? How about Prime Devon Alexander, Prime Lamont Peterson, fighters such as Nate Campbell, and Marquez who was coming of ont he greatest knock out punch ever, who was confident as hell and was the heavy favorite to beat Bradley.

                      But in reality, if we dissect each other's career, it isn't much if we put Muhammad Ali, Leonard, Robinson on the dissecting table and how their careers like how fans do to Pac and May.
                      I think Marquez is an awesome win, I was just illustrating my point that some of us are overzealous with our criticism (including me often).

                      Edit: I just think you're going out of your way to diminish good Mayweather wins. Also there's plenty of controversy in the careers of those other ATGs. How about Ali with the sus stuff in both Liston fights, and the controversial fights with Norton?
                      Last edited by Jiub; 01-04-2017, 11:49 PM.

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