hatton well packaged money making machine

**AllEyesOpen** · 05-15-2006, 01:52 PM

Couldn't have put it better myself

**mick66** · 05-15-2006, 02:02 PM

Yes and Collazo is crap as well..He had his best chance to beat an out of sorts Hatton and still couldn't pull it off..

**MR. V** · 05-15-2006, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by shingle

can`t some of you guy`s see through the clever way ricky has been managed yes he is a good fighter but nowhere near great he has never fought a young hungry contender apart from collazo.
for eg eamon magee put him down and give him a tough fight and then goes and loses his next 2 fights. for a number of years ricky fights over the hill fighters who have lost there previous fights or are nealy 40 years old like vince, tackie, oliveira and co, he then is matched against tszyu who has boxed just 3 rounds in over 2 years and is 38 years old. full credit must be given to frank warren but also shows the gullerbility of a lot of fight fans, yes ricky is a good fighter but once he comes up against a genuine top fighter he will come unstuck.

i agree and your points are nicely well put. good note and good back up material. nice work......

**SMC** · 05-15-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by shingle

can`t some of you guy`s see through the clever way ricky has been managed yes he is a good fighter but nowhere near great he has never fought a young hungry contender apart from collazo.
for eg eamon magee put him down and give him a tough fight and then goes and loses his next 2 fights. for a number of years ricky fights over the hill fighters who have lost there previous fights or are nealy 40 years old like vince, tackie, oliveira and co, he then is matched against tszyu who has boxed just 3 rounds in over 2 years and is 38 years old. full credit must be given to frank warren but also shows the gullerbility of a lot of fight fans, yes ricky is a good fighter but once he comes up against a genuine top fighter he will come unstuck.

Ricky has always had trouble with southpaw's and Magee knocked him out because Hatton went in all guns blazing in the first round and didn't watch his defence, Collazo - another southpaw, a world champion..a new weight, what the **** were you expecting son? a master class performance from The Hitman? dont be ******.It was always going to be an ugly fight because of the circumstances

Oliveira - Yes he was old, but before he had fought Hatton he'd won his last 3 fights so it's not as if he was completely washed out before the fight,

Vince Phillips - He beat Tszyu, 'nuff said ( cant be that much of a bad fighter? )

Tackie - Went the full distance with Sharmba Mitchell one fight before he fought Hatton..( but i suppose your going to say something like, Mitchell is a bum? )

Tszyu - ' past his prime ' right? like someone else said on these forums not one person was saying this before the fight, so why start now? if it was PBF who had beat him you would still be ravin bout it now and ridin' his ****.

Ricky Hatton is the real deal i can assure you, his last performance was a one of. I have never seen him fight so badly ( yet he still won? ) that shows his class. I couldn't give a **** what the majority of Americans think about Ricky. The English lads on this forum know he is for real and thats all that matter's

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**Manny_P** · 05-15-2006, 02:27 PM

Ricky got handled.

**MR. V** · 05-15-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by $Manny_P$

Ricky got handled.

maybe u havent watched enough boxing matches cuz u dont know what handled means. Lewis handled Tyson in their match. NOW, thats handling. HAtton got rocked but rocked back. nuff said.

**Abe Attell** · 05-15-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by SMC

Vince Phillips - He beat Tszyu, 'nuff said ( cant be that much of a bad fighter? )

Tackie - Went the full distance with Sharmba Mitchell one fight before he fought Hatton..( but i suppose your going to say something like, Mitchell is a bum? )

Tszyu - ' past his prime ' right? like someone else said on these forums not one person was saying this before the fight, so why start now? if it was PBF who had beat him you would still be ravin bout it now and ridin' his ****.

Ricky Hatton is the real deal i can assure you, his last performance was a one of. I have never seen him fight so badly ( yet he still won? ) that shows his class. I couldn't give a **** what the majority of Americans think about Ricky. Us English know he is for real and thats all that matter's

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Vince Phillip was shot more times than 50 cent when Hatton fought him...you can't believe that was the same fighter.

Tackie: another fighter not in his prime and not the same fighter he once was...I am not saying it would of mattered, but it would of been a much more competitive fight.

Kostya Tszyu: I made my points several times, but I will do it again: It is no secret that the guy fought 9 rounds in 3 years; was coming of a long layoff do to 2 serious injuries, which can be a sign of inactivity, aging, and trying to drain your body down to 140lbs when it has out-grown the weight-class.
A 35 year old fighter is not the same fighter as when he was younger, when the Hormones were higher, the Hunger was more, the reflexes were better, and the endurance was at its peak.

Lets not forget the circumstance in that fight too: the grappling for 5-6 rounds to wear out the old Champion; that was coming off a layoff of injuries; a fighter that struggled to make weight and looked more depleted at the weighin than I have ever seen him, though he didn't look to good in the Sharmba Mitchell weighin too, and I wonder if that fight went into the later rounds, if he was pressured a bit more, if his stamina wouldn't have showed its flaw.

People over blew that victory over Mitchell: both Tyson and Steward said that Mitchell was scared to death in the locker room before the fight; he went in scared, got caught with one big punch that stunned him and he folded; the fight also didn't last long.

**FeelTheA-Force** · 05-15-2006, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Abe Attell

Vince Phillip was shot more times than 50 cent when Hatton fought him...you can't believe that was the same fighter.

Tackie: another fighter not in his prime and not the same fighter he once was...I am not saying it would of mattered, but it would of been a much more competitive fight.

Kostya Tszyu: I made my points several times, but I will do it again: It is no secret that the guy fought 9 rounds in 3 years; was coming of a long layoff do to 2 serious injuries, which can be a sign of inactivity, aging, and trying to drain your body down to 140lbs when it has out-grown the weight-class.
A 35 year old fighter is not the same fighter as when he was younger, when the Hormones were higher, the Hunger was more, the reflexes were better, and the endurance was at its peak.

Lets not forget the circumstance in that fight too: the grappling for 5-6 rounds to wear out the old Champion; that was coming off a layoff of injuries; a fighter that struggled to make weight and looked more depleted at the weighin than I have ever seen him, though he didn't look to good in the Sharmba Mitchell weighin too, and I wonder if that fight went into the later rounds, if he was pressured a bit more, if his stamina wouldn't have showed its flaw.

People over blew that victory over Mitchell: both Tyson and Steward said that Mitchell was scared to death in the locker room before the fight; he went in scared, got caught with one big punch that stunned him and he folded; the fight also didn't last long.

u clearly will do any thing to defend a bum american fighter, that had a good nites fight?!!

**bdevils** · 05-15-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by SMC

Ricky has always had trouble with southpaw's and Magee knocked him out because Hatton went in all guns blazing in the first round and didn't watch his defence, Collazo - another southpaw, a world champion..a new weight, what the **** were you expecting son? a master class performance from The Hitman? dont be ******.It was always going to be an ugly fight because of the circumstances

Oliveira - Yes he was old, but before he had fought Hatton he'd won his last 3 fights so it's not as if he was completely washed out before the fight,

Vince Phillips - He beat Tszyu, 'nuff said ( cant be that much of a bad fighter? )

Tackie - Went the full distance with Sharmba Mitchell one fight before he fought Hatton..( but i suppose your going to say something like, Mitchell is a bum? )

Tszyu - ' past his prime ' right? like someone else said on these forums not one person was saying this before the fight, so why start now? if it was PBF who had beat him you would still be ravin bout it now and ridin' his ****.

Ricky Hatton is the real deal i can assure you, his last performance was a one of. I have never seen him fight so badly ( yet he still won? ) that shows his class. I couldn't give a **** what the majority of Americans think about Ricky. The English lads on this forum know he is for real and thats all that matter's

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all of you brits are the same saying you don't care what americans think but it's obvious that you do or you wouldn't be on here trying to build up your fighters. hatton didn't look good unless you think holding looks good, he should of got knocked out a few times if there was a good ref in there he probably would of or lost on points because there should of been deductions for all of the holding he was doing. the point is he hasn't proved himself as of yet to most of the american public and if he got rocked like that by someone who isn't known for knockouts he is going to have a rough time with the big hitters.

hatton well packaged money making machine