Comments Thread For: WBA Aims To Continue Eliminating Titles, Start Drug Testing Policy

[Mick Higgs]

I've just read that Paul Smith's in the running to fight Tyron Zeuge. If their serious about cutting title's then the WBA should just order Zeuge/Sturm & cut the crap!

[Larry the boss]

continue???when did they start?

[BrometheusBob.]

Talk is cheap

[KillaCamNZ]

The WBA is like a child at kindergarten who just can't grasp their ABC's. It's incredible that their decision makers are so incompetent.

[aboutfkntime]

I keep asking the following question.....

still yet to receive an answer

oh well, this thread is perfect..... let's try again

Golovkin is currently being credited with 17 middleweight title defences..... his first 11 title defences were for the WBA "regular" title, the same title currently held by Danny Jacobs.

Following that fight, regardless as to the winner, the regular "title" will become defunct.....

..... so, if Golovkin beats Hopkins record for defences..... will he have achieved that "feat" by defending a title that does not exist?

wtf?

[original zero]

They haven't eliminated 1 yet in over a year....I won't hold my breath

This is one of the main problems on the Boxing Scene message board. People just constantly post false information with no repercussions.

The WBA has 33 world champions right now. A year ago they had 42. So we don't need Gentblue to hold his breath. We need him to stop flooding the site with false information.

[original zero]

Simple if boxing doesnt copy the UFC structure it aint going nowhere. I perfer boxing, but the politics involved ruin it. Best vs best is the formula for success and there is no other way.

That is what PBC wants to do and PBC is the best chance of it ever happening. But HBO has flooded the market with propaganda to keep the hardcore fans on their side.

[original zero]

The best thing the WBA could do for boxing is disband. And convince the WBO and IBF to join them.

The sport would do just fine with only the WBC to keep an eye on.

it's up to the fans to stop accepting these other organizations. WBC has always been the real deal. the WBA should have lost their recognition when they started the super champion non-sense and the IBF & WBO should never have been recognized.

[original zero]

I keep asking the following question.....

still yet to receive an answer

oh well, this thread is perfect..... let's try again

Golovkin is currently being credited with 17 middleweight title defences..... his first 11 title defences were for the WBA "regular" title, the same title currently held by Danny Jacobs.

Following that fight, regardless as to the winner, the regular "title" will become defunct.....

..... so, if Golovkin beats Hopkins record for defences..... will he have achieved that "feat" by defending a title that does not exist?

wtf?

You're lying to the community because I already answered you. First of all, there's no such thing as a "regular" title.

Jacobs is the world champion, GGG is the super champion. After they fight, the super championship will become extinct, not the world championship.

[original zero]

They should stop eliminating excess belts and start eliminating excess sanctioning bodies. Why do the WBA, IBF, and WBO even exist? Let alone IBO. There should be only one champion per division.

The WBA exists because the New York State Athletic Commission was the most powerful entity in boxing. The biggest fights in the world took place in New York and the local commission had the power to create world championships.

The other state commissions were very jealous and upset, so they teamed up to combine their power to try to compete with the NYSAC by creating the National Boxing Association (which later became the WBA, with the NYSAC & EBU later creating the WBC).


The IBF exists because for years Don King controlled the WBC and Bob Arum controlled the WBA. Eventually, King started to take control of the WBA as well. Sensing that King was edging him out of the business, Arum threw all of his weight behind the USBA-International (which became the IBF) and started promoting USBA-I fights as "world title" fights and largely stopped working with the WBA.

Arum also publicly outed the WBA for accepting bribes via bagman Pepe Cordero. Pepe was a promoter in Puerto Rico and you had to give him cash to move up the WBA rankings. Which worked great for Arum for years until Don King started offering more money and Pepe & the WBA switched allegiances.

But Arum going public about the arrangement put Pepe & the WBA in a terrible position and Pepe lost favor in the organization, even though he didn't hold an official position. It gave the WBA plausible deniability that they used a third party to accept the bribes.

Pepe held a lot of sway in the sport from his years as WBA bagman and wasn't happy about being pushed out of the equation (he'd been keeping a % of every bribe).

So Pepe created the WBO so that nobody could stop him from accepting as many bribes as possible. He had been the middle man before, but why be the middle man accepting bribes on behalf of an organization when you can just start your own organization and keep all the money?