Comments Thread For: Froch on Golovkin: Time To Step Up in 2017 - Fight Andre Ward!

[LacedUp]

middleweight is a far more lucrative and prestigious division than super middleweight.

it's also a division where haymon doesn't control the titles.

doesn't make any sense to move up before a canelo fight.

you say GGG should go up to 168 and fight the degale/jack winner. how exactly is that going to happen unless GGG becomes a mandatory to force a fight? haymon is not going to send his top guy to HBO in a division he controls and GGG is not coming to showtime.

you simply don't understand how the business works.

Haymon fighters have fought on HBO before, and recently, so it seems like you're the one not understanding the business or simply making excuses.

Middleweight is lucrative historically. The champs at 168 are making more than GGG, so clearly it's not more lucrative at the moment.

Not to mention GGGs next fight is against a Haymon fighter, on you guessed it: HBO.

So who doesn't understand it exactly?

[original zero]

Haymon fighters have fought on HBO before, and recently, so it seems like you're the one not understanding the business or simply making excuses.

Middleweight is lucrative historically. The champs at 168 are making more than GGG, so clearly it's not more lucrative at the moment.

Not to mention GGGs next fight is against a Haymon fighter, on you guessed it: HBO.

So who doesn't understand it exactly?

It's a complicated situation and you're a simple minded fool, so I understand why it's confusing for you. Haymon has been very selective with who he has sent to HBO. Never risking his control of any division. Khan facing Canelo at middleweight had no bearing on Haymon's stranglehold of the welterweight division.

Haymon has no control in the middleweight division, so Wade or Jacobs fighting GGG has little impact on Haymon's mission. GGG controls that division and there's nothing Haymon can do until GGG gets knocked off.

But Super Middleweight is a division where Haymon has a lot of control, one of the reasons it would be ****** for GGG to be in a rush to move up.

Haymon needs to put a few fighters on HBO to help him in his lawsuit with GBP, but he's been very sly with which fighters he sends. It's never a division he's heavily invested in.

The champs at 168 are making more than GGG? Hahahah dude you're being ridiculous. GGG made approximately $5 million in his last fight. If you think the 168 champs are all making that, you're crazy.

[mathed]

"Time to jump up 2 divisions to prove yourself"


LMAO..........listen to all these shook clowns! Posters and boxers alike are shook to the core over this GGG dude! I mean Froch retired as soon as GGG talks started to get legit for crying out loud.

[LacedUp]

It's a complicated situation and you're a simple minded fool, so I understand why it's confusing for you. Haymon has been very selective with who he has sent to HBO. Never risking his control of any division. Khan facing Canelo at middleweight had no bearing on Haymon's stranglehold of the welterweight division.

Haymon has no control in the middleweight division, so Wade or Jacobs fighting GGG has little impact on Haymon's mission. GGG controls that division and there's nothing Haymon can do until GGG gets knocked off.

But Super Middleweight is a division where Haymon has a lot of control, one of the reasons it would be ****** for GGG to be in a rush to move up.

Haymon needs to put a few fighters on HBO to help him in his lawsuit with GBP, but he's been very sly with which fighters he sends. It's never a division he's heavily invested in.

The champs at 168 are making more than GGG? Hahahah dude you're being ridiculous. GGG made approximately $5 million in his last fight. If you think the 168 champs are all making that, you're crazy.

I'm a simple minded fool, yet you negate all evidence of the contrary in order to make up some mythical conspiracy. It's pathetic. But you can choose to believe that.

How do you know how much he made? And GGG getting that payday was by far his highest ever and it wasn't down to him anyway. He was fighting on a rival promoters show.

Bute, Degale, Jack, Groves etc have been making millions consistently. At worst its on the same level as GGG.

Nobody else in the MW division comes close to matching that at all, so saying MW is more lucrative than SMW is just so ridiculously ****** that it's not even worth a debate.

[LacedUp]

"Time to jump up 2 divisions to prove yourself"


LMAO..........listen to all these shook clowns! Posters and boxers alike are shook to the core over this GGG dude! I mean Froch retired as soon as GGG talks started to get legit for crying out loud.

Froch is saying 168. It's one division.

What's the problem with jumping up one division?

[NYC8224]

Froch the **** should fight GGG

[original zero]

Laced Up -

Yes, you are a simple minded fool. Like most of the posters on this site. Boxing appeals to the lowest common denominator, so most of the fanbase is of very low intelligence.

It's not a conspiracy theory. Haymon's strategy is clear as day. If you've been reading the court documents you'd know how important it was to make sure some fighters appeared on HBO. But in every situation, it was a weight class he had no control of anyway, never risking the divisions he has locked up.

You specifically said the champs at 168 are making more than GGG. That is 100% false. Then to "prove" your point, you list guys at 168 that aren't even champs (and aren't making more than GGG either).

[aboutfkntime]

Laced Up -

Yes, you are a simple minded fool. Like most of the posters on this site. Boxing appeals to the lowest common denominator, so most of the fanbase is of very low intelligence.

It's not a conspiracy theory. Haymon's strategy is clear as day. If you've been reading the court documents you'd know how important it was to make sure some fighters appeared on HBO. But in every situation, it was a weight class he had no control of anyway, never risking the divisions he has locked up.

You specifically said the champs at 168 are making more than GGG. That is 100% false. Then to "prove" your point, you list guys at 168 that aren't even champs (and aren't making more than GGG either).

wow, you're an excuse-making clown

kid, the bottom-line is all that counts

Murray / Lemieux / and now, probably Jacobs

that is NOT great..... is it ?

historians do not evaluate excuses, they measure results..... so your fanboy spin is irrelevant

[original zero]

GGG's success is indisputable. Even though I am not a GGG fan and I hope he loses to Jacobs, I don't see any legitimate reason to criticize GGG. He's unifying his division and winning every fight by knockout. He's doing what we should want every fighter in every division to do.

But there are haters out there that get very upset when people are successful. We saw it with Floyd as well. The same people saying GGG should fight Ward and the same ones saying Floyd should fight GGG. They demand an unfair disadvantage so they can get the emotional release they seek from the failure in others. It's pathetic.

[aboutfkntime]

GGG's success is indisputable.

for goodness sake

FACT: Golovkin has beaten NOBODY of note, and has NEVER faced a genuine world-class opponent LMAO

knowledgeable insiders are questioning his resume'

so yea, you CAN most definitely call that..... " disputed "

Even though I am not a GGG fan and I hope he loses to Jacobs, I don't see any legitimate reason to criticize GGG.

you are a 100% golovtard

nice try LMAO