Comments Thread For: Froch on Golovkin: Time To Step Up in 2017 - Fight Andre Ward!

[original zero]

I think it makes sense for GGG to move up sometime soon. If he's as good as they say he is, let's see it. There are not many challenges at 160. BJS looked like dog **** last time out.

What do you mean let's see it? Boxing has 17 weight classes. GGG is dominating his weight class far beyond any other fighter in any other weight class. He's proving his greatness by facing anybody with the balls to get into the ring with him and then knocking them out. He's the only WBC/WBA/IBF champion boxing has had in over a decade. Destroying opponents to such a terrifying degree that all the stars are avoiding his weight class like the plague.

But Canelo won't be able to make 154 forever. He will have no choice but to face GGG, which is the biggest fight than can be made in boxing right now. Why should GGG move up when he makes the weight so easily and will finally get his showdown with Canelo soon?

[Bjl12]

It doesn't matter ward chose to do now. The fact is he publicly said he was making no concessions for ggg negotiations and walked away from the negotiations saying ggg fight will never happen.


He walked away. Ggg offer was very fair. Ward ducked plain and simple

GGG calls out Canelo and says Canelo must move to 160 for him - zero concessions. GGG calls out Cotto and says the fight must take place at 160. GGG drags up a welterweight (147 lbs) and offers 0 concessions making the fight a full-blown 160.

GGG calls out Froch and JCC Jr. and says he'll fight at 168. GGG then calls out Ward and requires a catchweight of 164.

See any pattern here? The guy is a prima donna and his coach is literally a spitting image of Roach from 10 years ago. Nothing but yappity, yap, yap.

GGG is a good fighter but the myth is larger than the legend for certain

[original zero]

GGG calls out Canelo and says Canelo must move to 160 for him - zero concessions. GGG calls out Cotto and says the fight must take place at 160. GGG drags up a welterweight (147 lbs) and offers 0 concessions making the fight a full-blown 160.

In both instances, Cotto & Canelo were 160 pound world champions and GGG was their mandatory.

They gave up their belts to avoid him.

Blatant ducks.

[LacedUp]

What do you mean let's see it? Boxing has 17 weight classes. GGG is dominating his weight class far beyond any other fighter in any other weight class. He's proving his greatness by facing anybody with the balls to get into the ring with him and then knocking them out. He's the only WBC/WBA/IBF champion boxing has had in over a decade. Destroying opponents to such a terrifying degree that all the stars are avoiding his weight class like the plague.

But Canelo won't be able to make 154 forever. He will have no choice but to face GGG, which is the biggest fight than can be made in boxing right now. Why should GGG move up when he makes the weight so easily and will finally get his showdown with Canelo soon?

And so, who's the challenge for him? They're saying they would/will go up to 168 and could beat all those guys too. Sanchez literally said it a week ago. So once Jacobs is done - Who else is there?

He could go up to 168 and fight Degale/Jack or Ramirez. and then come back down to 160 and fight Canelo.

That's what great fighters do when there's no challenges in their division .

[HeadShots]

GGG calls out Canelo and says Canelo must move to 160 for him - zero concessions. GGG calls out Cotto and says the fight must take place at 160. GGG drags up a welterweight (147 lbs) and offers 0 concessions making the fight a full-blown 160.

GGG calls out Froch and JCC Jr. and says he'll fight at 168. GGG then calls out Ward and requires a catchweight of 164.

See any pattern here? The guy is a prima donna and his coach is literally a spitting image of Roach from 10 years ago. Nothing but yappity, yap, yap.

GGG is a good fighter but the myth is larger than the legend for certain

Nope. The wbc backed the 160 belt defense at 160. This is a fact.

Canelo own team said weight is no problem


So it's not the weight issue and it's also standard protocol for defense. Ward and ggg is a different case.


Fact is ward didn't have any belts and he wasn't mandatory to ggg. So they were simply negotiations a fair deal for both.


Ward walked away tucking his ****. This is a fact.

[original zero]

And so, who's the challenge for him? They're saying they would/will go up to 168 and could beat all those guys too. Sanchez literally said it a week ago. So once Jacobs is done - Who else is there?

He could go up to 168 and fight Degale/Jack or Ramirez. and then come back down to 160 and fight Canelo.

That's what great fighters do when there's no challenges in their division .

middleweight is a far more lucrative and prestigious division than super middleweight.

it's also a division where haymon doesn't control the titles.

doesn't make any sense to move up before a canelo fight.

you say GGG should go up to 168 and fight the degale/jack winner. how exactly is that going to happen unless GGG becomes a mandatory to force a fight? haymon is not going to send his top guy to HBO in a division he controls and GGG is not coming to showtime.

you simply don't understand how the business works.

[ThatDude44]

Ggg was mandatory to cotto and canelo .. when canelo dropped belt to duck.


When were ward and lara mandatory to ggg?

So the rule is only mandatories can be considered ducks?

[Robbie Barrett]

Nope. The wbc backed the 160 belt defense at 160. This is a fact.

Canelo own team said weight is no problem


So it's not the weight issue and it's also standard protocol for defense. Ward and ggg is a different case.


Fact is ward didn't have any belts and he wasn't mandatory to ggg. So they were simply negotiations a fair deal for both.


Ward walked away tucking his ****. This is a fact.

Ward still had the WBA title. Your "fact" is wrong.

[ThatDude44]

How do you believe Canelo could stave off the relentless persistence of GGG's varied attacks, superior footwork,ring generalship ie marshalling his opponent exactly how and where he wants him, Canelo hasn't the footwork of a Jacobs or Geale type he's static, stiff and upright, his defence is borderline awful but for the upper body movement.

Lara is a difficult opponent for anyone in and around 154.

GGG doesn't have superb footwork. I think Canelo is a flat out better boxer and he's faster than GGG and would counter GGG all night cause GGG is slow as heck.

[ThatDude44]

Where did you read they were in negotiations ?

Whatever you wanna call the 10-15 mil offer is what I'm talking about. They've had to have been doing some type of back and forth is what I get from that.