Comments Thread For: Manager: Jarrell Miller Willing to Challenge Parker in New Zealand

[juggernaut666]

A few things:

What part of he was losing every round against Mansour, do you not understand?

Secondly, I never said anything about Whyte having a better win than Takam or Ruiz. Which confirms to me that you have incredibly selective reading, and when there's a blank, you make things up in your head and pretend they are real.

Third, that's wonderful that you consider Takam, Ruiz, Whyte and Breazeale to be on the same level. But your comment about "anything else is pure bias" is ridiculous. That's narrow minded, and you need to accept that people are going to have different opinions to you every now and then. What you say is not the be all and end all - I encourage you to be strong in your opinion, but I don't encourage you to be ignorant. This place does not need more ignorance, so don't be one of the sheep.

You clearly know a thing or two about boxing, that's great. Embrace diversity though. There's a reason why UK fans are replacing US fans as the go-to when people think of ignorance - it's not good.

I'll end this by saying - I think AJ being considered the #1 Heavyweight boxing is reasonably fair. It's up for debate, but I'm not going to rip apart anyone who thinks that is the case. His physical tools, and the way he has dominated his opponents (albeit ones that are arguably B level) is incredible. I also believe he needs to prove he's worthy of the top spot.

You do realise Mansaur lost the previous rnd before the stoppageand was getting hit hard with counter shots by Breazeale right ? You guys love to make your own reality ,and as stated if Breazeale was in shape he would make short work of Mansaur . Breazeale isnt Joshua obviously but you will see after the Szpilka fight whats what.

Joshua needs to prove hes worth a TOP spot ?????

[Fury4daWIN]

The 280 lbs. is mostly muscle.

Big Baby actually cuts off the ring, works the body relentlessly, and punishes you the full twelve rounds if you can last that long. This ain't no Ruiz. Parker might be in serious trouble.

It's not really boxing specific muscle though. It's more like powerlifter/American football muscle.

Boxing is both an aerobic and anaerobic sport. Having too much of one type of muscle is going to hurt you.

[LoadedWraps]

I don't see Miller as anything other than a big punching lump. He lacks skill, ring IQ, speed, his conditioning is questionable and he has no top flight names on his resume. He looks to have a good body attack, seems to be physically robust, and keeps the pressure on but those are about the most I can say about him at present. I can't see how he should be favoured over Parker who's got a ton more talent and experience regardless of his somewhat iffy performances of late.

He is basically a prospect, of course he has no big names on his resume.



silly statement if there was one.

I disagree with your assessment as well. He's fat, but he definitely has a solid skillset and good fundamentals, and fight changing power.

The only edge I give to Parker right now is experience, and experience won't necessarily help you win as fight.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Jarrell who? Parker beat Ruiz jr. Dimitrenko and Takam. Jarrell beat who?

[Fury4daWIN]

He is basically a prospect, of course he has no big names on his resume.



silly statement if there was one.

I disagree with your assessment as well. He's fat, but he definitely has a solid skillset and good fundamentals, and fight changing power.

The only edge I give to Parker right now is experience, and experience won't necessarily help you win as fight.

I'm a big believer in resume when rating a fighter unless said fighter shows an exceptional skillset or other intangibles. Even then I like to reserve my judgement. Miller shows neither exceptional skill nor does he have anyone on his resume near the likes of Takam or Ruiz.

I'm surprised that you seem to see so much in Miller as you're usually very astute at spotting talent. In fact, the fact that you seem to think he's more than I think he is has led me to want to reassess him in case I'm missing something. From my own initial assessment of him he strikes me as a very lumbering, averagely skilled fighter, not terrible by any means but not someone I'd make a favourite over Parker at this moment.

You say the only edge you see Parker having is his greater experience. What about his far superior speed, combination punching, sharper jab, quicker feet and overall greater athleticism? Do you honestly think Miller surpasses him in any of these categories?

[keith_head]

The 280 lbs. is mostly muscle.

Big Baby actually cuts off the ring, works the body relentlessly, and punishes you the full twelve rounds if you can last that long. This ain't no Ruiz. Parker might be in serious trouble.

I tend to agree. Miller is a dark horse in the division. His strength is, well, his strength. I believe he walks through most guys who don't have a really strong deterrent straight right.

Given Parker hasn't been using his straight right of late, I think Miller would be a huge danger.

[keith_head]

I'm a big believer in resume when rating a fighter unless said fighter shows an exceptional skillset or other intangibles. Even then I like to reserve my judgement. Miller shows neither exceptional skill nor does he have anyone on his resume near the likes of Takam or Ruiz.

I'm surprised that you seem to see so much in Miller as you're usually very astute at spotting talent. In fact, the fact that you seem to think he's more than I think he is has led me to want to reassess him in case I'm missing something. From my own initial assessment of him he strikes me as a very lumbering, averagely skilled fighter, not terrible by any means but not someone I'd make a favourite over Parker at this moment.

You say the only edge you see Parker having is his greater experience. What about his far superior speed, combination punching, sharper jab, quicker feet and overall greater athleticism? Do you honestly think Miller surpasses him in any of these categories?

Miller is very athletic for a big guy, IMO. Much sharper foot movement than say Shannon Briggs (who is superficially a similar fighter), and miles, miles better than Breazele.

Did you watch the Miller-Kassi fight? Kassi is a really awkward boxer and Miller completely overpowered him. Relentless pressure, solid chin and actually decent defense. Throws good body punches too.

[Fury4daWIN]

Miller is very athletic for a big guy, IMO. Much sharper foot movement than say Shannon Briggs (who is superficially a similar fighter), and miles, miles better than Breazele.

Did you watch the Miller-Kassi fight? Kassi is a really awkward boxer and Miller completely overpowered him. Relentless pressure, solid chin and actually decent defense. Throws good body punches too.

I acknowledged his decent pressure and body attack. His win over Kassi was also impressive, considering the fighters Kassi has been in with. I can't agree with his footwork though. To me he was very slow feet. That can be negated to a degree by good ring cutting which he does seem to possess, but against a guy of fleeter foot I can see him having problems.

Obviously he's more athletic than a middle aged Briggs but that's not saying much. Against Parker the speed differential would become very apparent.

[LoadedWraps]

I'm a big believer in resume when rating a fighter unless said fighter shows an exceptional skillset or other intangibles.

That's where we disagree, I weigh resume, skillset, and intangibles equally, and if the fighter doesn't have a strong resume yet either because he is a prospect or to no fault of his own I don't hold that against him or rate him low or don't rate him at all for it.

I let the resume come into play as the career progresses.

There are plenty guys out there I think very highly of who don't have impressive wins, for many reasons. I'm not going to ignore the strong instinct I have to recognize talent and boxing IQ when I see it just because they haven't done it against an elite contender.

Just like how someone is innocent until proven guilty, I give you the benefit of the doubt until I see your skillset and abilities fail you or come up short. I am not just going to assume you can't win at that level until I see it.

I reserve that kind of skepticism for fighters with major flaws and red flags.

[KillaCamNZ]

Joshua needs to prove hes worth a TOP spot ?????

You seem confused? Yes, he does.

Like I said, I'm not going to argue with anyone who reckons Joshua is the #1 guy right now, that's fair. But he does need to prove it - and it starts with having a better win than Whyte. Klitchko is the test he needs, and he'll get.

Or do we live in a world where untested fighters don't have to prove anything? That's scary.