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  • #51
    Originally posted by keith_head View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBAmwG3ff0&t=1118s

    If you're watching that fight and saying that Martin was dominating Glaskov before the first slip, you're seeing something different to me.
    Nice twisting of the semantics.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums! View Post
      Nice twisting of the semantics.
      err ok? I'm not sure where you're seeing Martin timing Glaskov before the slip.

      You can choose to rate Martin or not. Most people don't, for good reason IMO.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BWC View Post
        I honestly think Miller smashes Parker. I think Arum ducks this fight like nobody's business..
        I favor Miller but I think it's a tough fight for both.

        I consider them both to be the real deal, we will see what happens.

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        • #54
          Jarrell whoooo??>??????

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
            I love watching you claim Parker is fighting good fighters but AJ is fighting bums. No bias there at all.

            It's like reading an ignorant persons words trying to justify their hero's work while putting the brakes on one of his rivals.

            Please continue... Haha.
            Joshua isn't fighting bums, but his resume thus far isn't exactly a strong one. Parker has Takam and Ruiz, Joshua has Whyte, Martin and Breazele. There isn't a huge gap between them but there is a clear one.

            If Joshua beats Wlad then his resume jumps leaps and bounds above Parker obviously, but until then any criticisms of him in comparison with Parker are fully justified.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
              I favor Miller but I think it's a tough fight for both.

              I consider them both to be the real deal, we will see what happens.
              I don't see Miller as anything other than a big punching lump. He lacks skill, ring IQ, speed, his conditioning is questionable and he has no top flight names on his resume. He looks to have a good body attack, seems to be physically robust, and keeps the pressure on but those are about the most I can say about him at present. I can't see how he should be favoured over Parker who's got a ton more talent and experience regardless of his somewhat iffy performances of late.
              Last edited by Fury4daWIN; 01-01-2017, 11:39 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                So Brezeale, Whyte and Martin are bums but Ruiz is good? Ruiz is a fat slob. Takam is quite honestly the most overrated heavy out there. The only reason you say they're good wins is down to Parker struggling while AJ was dominating his opponents. That's the only reason.

                We don't know much about Martin or Brezeale. they're both still young. They still have time to prove themselves. They could end up being good fighters or just decent.

                But what I can tell you is that whyte has a win over Chisora and Brezeale has a win over Mansour, two wins that are better than anything Ruiz or Takem have. And that's a fact. You're just being deliriously biased.

                Most of your posts are about this topic which shows me clearly that you're pissed that Parker looks like crap and AJ looks the business. So you're throwing catty remarks around like a child.

                Last time we had this conversation you were calling AJ's opponents fat. But now that Parker has fought Ruiz (the fattest heavy out there) you're calling him good. You really couldn't make this up.
                None of those names mentioned is a bum, but several are very unproven and potentially not as good as advertised (perhaps not as bad either). Takam is the only name who's really proven his worth through tough competitive fights with Povetkin, Perez and a lop sided win over a still handy Tony Thompson. That's why he's rightly feted as one of Parker's best wins. He's the very antithesis of overrated.

                You're right that a number of Joshua's opponents could potentially go on to notch up some good wins; Whyte already has Chisora on his resume (however controversially) and Breazeale could up his standing by beating Szpilka in February, but until they do they need to be treated as question marks. Ruiz too, to be fair.

                I personally consider both fighters to be very promising, with Parker having the marginally better resume and Joshua having the more impressive recent showings. I don't see why there needs to be a p!ssing match between fans of the two.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post
                  Hang on, hang on. Whyte-Chisora was a good ****ing fight, I liked that. But you do realize that Breazeale beat Mansour because Mansour bit his own tongue so hard he had to retire, right? Breazeale lost every round of that fight including being knocked down. He was literally being swept.

                  Charles Martin's best win was getting outboxed until his opponent fell over himself and tore his knee up, giving him a title that he eventually sold to Hearn and Joshua.

                  You have an incredibly selective memory (and an inability to bring up examples of your claims). I have praised AJ many, many times and will continue to do so, because he's an elite heavyweight fighter. I've been critical of his resume, and I've provided my best analysis on what I see of him. Likewise, I've been open and critical of what Parker does wrong.

                  I don't do catty comments - but I will suggest you pull a Mansour and bite your own tongue before you keep making claims without substance.

                  I seriously had no idea TKO via self-mutilation was worth referring to in a positive manner.
                  I thought the Breazeale Mansour fight was quite competitive up until the stoppage. Mansour swept the early rounds and was really laying a beating on Breazele but to his credit Breazele managed to weather the storm and was coming back nicely in the last few rounds. It was a well deserved win, even if not entirely representative of how the fight would go in a best of series. Injuries happen, and Mansour didn't bite his tongue without a little help from Breazele's fists after all.

                  Martin I honestly thought was outboxing Glazkov although the fight was too short to really take much away from. Glazkov's knee weakness which led to the injury might also have been one he came into the ring with, which would necessarily affect his performance.

                  Both fighters need a more convincing win over a high level opponent to dispel any doubts however. I think that's a fair comment to make.
                  Last edited by Fury4daWIN; 01-01-2017, 12:02 PM.

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                  • #59
                    The 280 lbs. is mostly muscle.

                    Big Baby actually cuts off the ring, works the body relentlessly, and punishes you the full twelve rounds if you can last that long. This ain't no Ruiz. Parker might be in serious trouble.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      You do know that a punch is what caused Mansour's injury? And that he was exhausted before he quit and was ready to go? Mansour just didn't want to get taken out. He knew if he came out for the next round it was over for him. It's still a legit win for Brezeale that's better than what Ruiz and Takem have. No matter which way you want to slice it, that's just the honest truth.

                      At least you accept Whyte has a better win than anything Ruiz and Takem have.

                      Whereas with Martin, we just don't know how good he is. You simply can't judge him by the AJ loss. AJ is just that good. He'd do the same if not worse to Parker. Would you then come back and say Parker was **** due to how dominating the win was? Of course not. But that's what you're doing now with Martin.

                      Oh and Martin wasn't getting out-boxed before the injury came about, that's just your inability to score a fight properly. Go and watch now on YouTube to see if you think that.

                      I consider Takem, Ruiz, Whyte, Brezeale and Martin to be on the same level until proven otherwise. To consider anything else is pure bias. It's as simple as that.
                      Depending on how highly you rate Mansour you could claim that he's a better win than Thompson (Takam's best win), though I think that's quite debatable. Takam also has very strong showings against both Perez and Povetkin while Beazeale has a controversial win over Kassi in a fight many thought he lost. There's just a lot more consistency with Takam. I'd also pick him in a H2H with Breazele based on their recent showings and various stylistic factors.

                      Regarding Takam and Whyte, I think that a dominant points win over Thompson is worth more than a close and controversial win over Chisora, so I don't accept Whyte's win as far and above anything Takam has done.

                      Agreed with your other points.
                      Last edited by Fury4daWIN; 01-01-2017, 12:11 PM.

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