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  • 1hourRun
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    #11
    Originally posted by giacomino
    I agree with your premise that Murata's opposition hadn't been horrible for so few fights but you might want to cool it bragging about him KOing 29-3 Nascimento, who was 36, has a ridiculously padded record made in Brazil and has been KO'd every time he fought an opponent in the top 100 in his division. Other young fighters have fought better opponents in their first fight, let alone third. Shibata, the guy Murata debuted against, was probably better.
    Give me some names of any recent middleweight champion fighting guys with similar records at the beginning of their career...and by middleweights I mean starting at middleweight not moving up.

    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    Wade & Rose would've been good wins on Murata's record, his 2016 has been ugly. Four meaningless, record-padding wins to no-where.

    It's like every year of his pro-career is moving backwards. He started so strong and looked good, then the competition got softer every year and he's looked more and more mediocre.

    At 30 years old with an extensive amateur career, he's no longer a prospect. I know they made an offer to BJS for a December fight in Tokyo, but they should've made efforts to get other better comp this year. He could've had wins over Geale or Soliman this year, instead - poop.
    I disagree that Wade and Rose would be good wins those guys suck! it dont do nothing for him really.

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      #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      I disagree that Wade and Rose would be good wins those guys suck! it dont do nothing for him really.
      Wade & Rose are recognizable names and rated in the top 15 by various orgs.

      Gaston Alejandro Vega, Felipe Santos Pedroso, George Tahdooahnippah, and Bruno Sandoval suck and do nothing for him really! 2016 was a wasted year for Murata. He should've went back to Japan and atleast fought Charlie Ota for a credible win.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Eastcoast
        Wade & Rose are recognizable names and rated in the top 15 by various orgs.

        Gaston Alejandro Vega, Felipe Santos Pedroso, George Tahdooahnippah, and Bruno Sandoval suck and do nothing for him really! 2016 was a wasted year for Murata. He should've went back to Japan and atleast fought Charlie Ota for a credible win.
        Completely ridiculous when you consider the stage of his career at the time he fought them thus rendering such a high ranking in only eleven pro fights so yes they did something for him -- more than a Wade or Rose could do for him now ; hell hes ranked higher than them in some sanctioning bodies now. It appears that any promoter would not see any value in those names other than getting rounds in for Murata ; hes not the typical prospect that would go to the UK and take a risk getting robbed on the contrary as you mentioned team Murata is making the offer to Billy Joe.

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          #14
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          Completely ridiculous when you consider the stage of his career at the time he fought them thus rendering such a high ranking in only eleven pro fights so yes they did something for him -- more than a Wade or Rose could do for him now ; hell hes ranked higher than them in some sanctioning bodies now. It appears that any promoter would not see any value in those names other than getting rounds in for Murata ; hes not the typical prospect that would go to the UK and take a risk getting robbed on the contrary as you mentioned team Murata is making the offer to Billy Joe.
          Murata is 30 years old with an extensive amateur career. Prior to 2016, he's gone the 10 round distance multiple times. He's not a prospect to the point he should be fighting anymore sandbags like he fought in 2016.

          The best names on Murata's resume came in his first year as a pro - that's not good. I never said he should go to the UK, in fact a Rose fight would only make sense in Japan where Murata is a far bigger draw than Rose in the UK (and we're using Rose & Wade as examples, it could be a number of mid-level MW's). Murata is actually older than Jorge Heiland, he could've easily fought him for his December fight. Or decent mid-level MW's like Vitaliy Kopylenko, Gary O'Sullivan, Marcos Nader, Alvin Ayala, Akavov - all those guys would've been considerably better than the four fighters he fought in 2016. Wasted year.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Eastcoast
            Murata is 30 years old with an extensive amateur career. Prior to 2016, he's gone the 10 round distance multiple times. He's not a prospect to the point he should be fighting anymore sandbags like he fought in 2016.

            The best names on Murata's resume came in his first year as a pro - that's not good. I never said he should go to the UK, in fact a Rose fight would only make sense in Japan where Murata is a far bigger draw than Rose in the UK (and we're using Rose & Wade as examples, it could be a number of mid-level MW's). Murata is actually older than Jorge Heiland, he could've easily fought him for his December fight. Or decent mid-level MW's like Vitaliy Kopylenko, Gary O'Sullivan, Marcos Nader, Alvin Ayala, Akavov - all those guys would've been considerably better than the four fighters he fought in 2016. Wasted year.
            I really dont like getting into speculation who coulda shoulda the bottom line the man wanted to fight for a world title before his eleventh pro fight whatever went on with Billy Joe I dont know to be honest : Now if Murata had been on HBO getting hyped like these other euros then I would change my tune...but nobody ever heard of him outside the hardcore...but in 2017 like you I expect him to step it up.
            Last edited by 1hourRun; 12-30-2016, 07:31 AM.

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              #16
              Murata is in a tough position. He's three-year pro in a division where almost all the titles belong to one man. I doubt Arum makes any real moves with Murata until Golovkin loses or moves up.

              Until then he's going to be fighting Mid-Rank Middleweights.

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                #17
                Ryota Murata vs Bruno Sandoval



                lolololol!!! the ref.

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