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  • #41
    Merry Christmas

    Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
    The only way coWard can improve on what he did is to retire like he's wanting to do. Then it will all be left to words and Andre is very good with SAYING what he can would did and will do LOL
    shut your a$$ up pu$$y. You don't know ***** about boxing.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Cool Scant View Post
      shut your a$$ up pu$$y. You don't know ***** about boxing.
      Go *** your mother some more.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Pepe The Frog View Post
        Ward can improve more on strength and conditioning too to better wrestle on the inside obviously these aren't things you're meant to do they don't represent boxing skill but its something he can do to improve because I doubt we will have a referee who will disallow that dirty side of the fight which be honest nobody wants to see.
        ya see i dont agree with this kovalev did a **** ton of his own holding when ward got on the inside as well so he wouldnt hanve to take body shots. ward is known for holding yes but that doesnt mean kov wasnt doing a **** ton of holding as well

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Gillie View Post
          Maybe but Ward's behavior has been just as obnoxious. He clearly thought that he lost but the second the decision was read, he suddenly started believing that he was dominant and should be paid accordingly. It's possible that both will lose fans (despite gaining some for the actual fight) for all of this post fight nonsense.
          to say he clearly thought he lost is also a ridiculous sentiment. he could of very well thought he edged the fight or even known it could go either way. this idea that he was shocked when it was the first time in his career amateur or pro where there was decent possibility he would lose on the scorecards to act like his reaction is somehow a proof of guilt is honestly just lame.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            in the rematch.....

            Kova will have to deal with a REAL light heavyweight

            Kova will have to deal with a sharp opponent who is 100% ready

            Kova will have to deal with everything that caused him problems the first time around, except more so

            and the things that worked well for Kovalev last time, will be less effective in the rematch and may even cause him problems

            I believe that Ward will get off to a better start, and if he starts racking up the rounds early, Kova will be operating under pressure as he tries to pick up the pace and force the action

            I think those guys have a ton of work to do, and the question is on them to turn things around..... NOT on Andre Ward
            Implying Andre Ward isn't a real light heavyweight

            Yet he won a gold medal at 175lbs in the Olympics but he wasn't a lightheavyweight, further proof Ward is a true LHW he said himself that he could no longer make 168lbs and he even finds it difficult to make 175lbs so he is a big LHW.

            Implying he wasn't sharp, still suffering from ring rust

            Three fights (all in the LHW division FYI) prior to Kovalev fight, numerous reports stating Ward looked sharp and back to his best.


            So you admit Ward will be doing even more clinching this time around, I watched the fight and have a thread on the clinching, Ward clinched 51 times to Kovalev's 7 times is that the improvements you mean or do you mean Ward will actually come back to the fight with a real gameplan oppose to fighting constantly on the backfoot with no real idea of what he is doing?

            I wonder what positive work you seen Ward do apart from the few flashy jabs and late round body work he did, Ward really was unimpressive in this fight and that was a in form, sharp Andre Ward.

            The DUMMYGRAPHIC strikes again!!
            Last edited by M Bison; 12-25-2016, 04:07 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by ceylon mooney View Post
              "repeat the win" is misleading
              it was close but a clear win for kovalev, who decisively beat ward but lost to the three american judges

              now we have ****** ward drama for the rematch. boxing has learned a lot of pro rasslin. its good business but bad sport.

              for the record im a much bigger ward fan and favored him to win, but he clearly lost.
              Saying that the fight was close but one guy clearly won decisevly is contradictory.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
                There is usually some truth and some non truth in most statements. I wouldn't say Ward can't or won't improve, but at this stage, his game is set, and there won't be very many changes. Kovalev could stand to fix some holes in his game if he wants to truly dominate the rematch, even though he had a lot of success in the fight. He did some great counter punching... but he just needs to do more. He need NJs to improve his stamina, and I think I read somewhere he'll have a strength and conditioning coach FNO. He needs to cut off the ring a little better. And he definitely needs to work on the uppercuts more. Plus LISTEN better to JDJ. Hopefully he can put it all together, now that he pretty much knows exactly what to expect from Ward. Now, if they can just keep Robert Byrd and Kenny Bayless away from the ring, get a better ref, maybe we'll have an honest rematch.
                Blame it on the ref. Excuses excuses. A so called better ref is going to stop Kovalev from holding and using headlocks too. Where were these complaints when Ricky Hatton built his entire career on holding and hitting? What about Vladimir Klitschko, Carlos Molina and Marcos Maidan. Why is this so much of issue for Ward and no one else?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
                  The ref played a big role in the first fight. At 74 and returning to the ring from back surgery, Byrd was unable to control the fighters.
                  Neither fighter was following Byrd's instructions and the fight deteriorated into a foul filled wrestling match.
                  This situation probably helped Ward more than Kovalev.
                  So Andre might do better if Byrd's older brother (who is blind in one eye) replaces the 74 year old.
                  "Foul filled". Really? I didn't notice that. And you're the first person that I've heard describe the fight that way.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Post
                    ya see i dont agree with this kovalev did a **** ton of his own holding when ward got on the inside as well so he wouldnt hanve to take body shots. ward is known for holding yes but that doesnt mean kov wasnt doing a **** ton of holding as well
                    I don't think Ward is actually ""known" for holding. It's more so that he just inherited all of Mayweather's haters

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Pepe The Frog View Post
                      Implying Andre Ward isn't a real light heavyweight

                      Yet he won a gold medal at 175lbs in the Olympics but he wasn't a lightheavyweight, further proof Ward is a true LHW he said himself that he could no longer make 168lbs and he even finds it difficult to make 175lbs so he is a big LHW.

                      Implying he wasn't sharp, still suffering from ring rust

                      Three fights (all in the LHW division FYI) prior to Kovalev fight, numerous reports stating Ward looked sharp and back to his best.


                      So you admit Ward will be doing even more clinching this time around, I watched the fight and have a thread on the clinching, Ward clinched 51 times to Kovalev's 7 times is that the improvements you mean or do you mean Ward will actually come back to the fight with a real gameplan oppose to fighting constantly on the backfoot with no real idea of what he is doing?

                      I wonder what positive work you seen Ward do apart from the few flashy jabs and late round body work he did, Ward really was unimpressive in this fight and that was a in form, sharp Andre Ward.

                      The DUMMYGRAPHIC strikes again!!
                      The dummy graphic eh? You exposed your true bias by making that statement. Who makes up the supposed less intelligent demographic? It seems obvious that your statement is inflammatory towards a certain group of people. Since it is critical of people who are supportive of Andre Ward it also seems that black people would be that group that you are referring to and inferring to be the dummygraphic. Do believe that making racially prejudiced statements is a sign of your superior intelligence? Where and when did you come up with the idea of racial superiority based on degradation?
                      Last edited by peplz; 12-25-2016, 05:10 PM.

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