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  • TheTruthOfIt
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    #31
    Wilder is a joke.

    AJ was several years behind Wilder and will fight a real top 5 HW at least 3 months b4 Wilder.

    Wilder is a record padder clinging onto a belt by fighting C class opposition

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    • Clegg
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      #32
      Originally posted by Cinci Champ
      its not wilders fault povetkin ruined his big fight and the guy just broke his hand in 4 spots and had surgery on a torn bicep this is not a tuneup fight this is more a rehab fight. its one thing to bash fighters for who they fight its another entirely to be hateful and ignore the reality of wilders situation i mean seriously do u honestly not get that this is nothing more then a rehab fight so he can make sure all is well before taking a real challenge?
      I think maybe you need some help translating English into English. When Wilder said "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups" what he was saying was "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups". The clue is in the words. He was not saying "I'm gonna fight a bum as a 'rehab' fight" so no idea how you managed to think he stuck to his word one this one.

      Wilder told his dumb fans that he wouldn't have an easy fight back, that he wanted the best possible opponents, the top 3 guys or at least top 10 guys. Fans believed it. Then when yet again it's shown that he was lying, rather than admitting what is there in black and white you say that anyone who spots the lie is being "hateful". I don't hate the guy, you don't see me calling him a coward or a pussy, I've enjoyed his fights but I just don't think people should continually make excuses for him promising tough opponents and then picking random nobodies.

      When Wilder name dropped the big dogs and then Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Wawrzyk were chosen as opponents, you were happy about that?

      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      Bottom line....no one is fighting anyone challenging unless it brings big money at heavyweight. I guess in your mind it's Wilder's fault that the WBC postponed the Povetkin fight.
      Nah, Povetkin is a piece of shit, I'd be happy if he got a lifetime ban. The problem with Wilder fans is that they always want to change the subject due to losing the argument. We started out talking about how Wilder promised a good opponent and then picked a weak one and rather than admit he should be facing someone better you tried to say the other belt holders weren't facing better opposition either, then I pointed out that ALL of them are facing tougher opponents and you try to change it to 'only because of big money' and the Povetkin nonsense.

      Personally I dislike belt holders having the attitude that they will only fight guys outside the top #40 unless they get paid retirement money but if that's how you see Wilder and support it then ok, he's not the only guy in the sport like that, but it's not something I'm a fan of.
      Last edited by Clegg; 12-25-2016, 06:32 AM.

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      • Szef
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        #33
        Originally posted by Clegg
        I think maybe you need some help translating English into English. When Wilder said "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups" what he was saying was "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups". The clue is in the words. He was not saying "I'm gonna fight a bum as a 'rehab' fight" so no idea how you managed to think he stuck to his word one this one.

        Wilder told his dumb fans that he wouldn't have an easy fight back, that he wanted the best possible opponents, the top 3 guys or at least top 10 guys. Fans believed it. Then when yet again it's shown that he was lying, rather than admitting what is there in black and white you say that anyone who spots the lie is being "hateful". I don't hate the guy, you don't see me calling him a coward or a pussy, I've enjoyed his fights but I just don't think people should continually make excuses for him promising tough opponents and then picking random nobodies.

        When Wilder name dropped the big dogs and then Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Wawrzyk were chosen as opponents, you were happy about that?



        Nah, Povetkin is a piece of shit, I'd be happy if he got a lifetime ban. The problem with Wilder fans is that they always want to change the subject due to losing the argument. We started out talking about how Wilder promised a good opponent and then picked a weak one and rather than admit he should be facing someone better you tried to say the other belt holders weren't facing better opposition either, then I pointed out that ALL of them are facing tougher opponents and you try to change it to 'only because of big money' and the Povetkin nonsense.

        Personally I dislike belt holders having the attitude that they will only fight guys outside the top #40 unless they get paid retirement money but if that's how you see Wilder and support it then ok, he's not the only guy in the sport like that, but it's not something I'm a fan of.
        Too much truth in this post.. Green K

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #34
          Originally posted by Clegg
          I think maybe you need some help translating English into English. When Wilder said "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups" what he was saying was "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups". The clue is in the words. He was not saying "I'm gonna fight a bum as a 'rehab' fight" so no idea how you managed to think he stuck to his word one this one.

          Wilder told his dumb fans that he wouldn't have an easy fight back, that he wanted the best possible opponents, the top 3 guys or at least top 10 guys. Fans believed it. Then when yet again it's shown that he was lying, rather than admitting what is there in black and white you say that anyone who spots the lie is being "hateful". I don't hate the guy, you don't see me calling him a coward or a pussy, I've enjoyed his fights but I just don't think people should continually make excuses for him promising tough opponents and then picking random nobodies.

          When Wilder name dropped the big dogs and then Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Wawrzyk were chosen as opponents, you were happy about that?



          Nah, Povetkin is a piece of shit, I'd be happy if he got a lifetime ban. The problem with Wilder fans is that they always want to change the subject due to losing the argument. We started out talking about how Wilder promised a good opponent and then picked a weak one and rather than admit he should be facing someone better you tried to say the other belt holders weren't facing better opposition either, then I pointed out that ALL of them are facing tougher opponents and you try to change it to 'only because of big money' and the Povetkin nonsense.

          Personally I dislike belt holders having the attitude that they will only fight guys outside the top #40 unless they get paid retirement money but if that's how you see Wilder and support it then ok, he's not the only guy in the sport like that, but it's not something I'm a fan of.
          I get what you're saying, but you're not acknowledging the changes in the heavyweight landscape after Wilder made the statement. In August, Fury, Klitschko, and Joshua were an option for him upon his comeback. To me the message in August was, hey I wanna fight the those guys when i come back. By November, they were not. Wilder isn't doing anything different from every other heavyweight with a name. Fight easy fights until you can make the big ones. What other heavyweight is taking "tough" fights?

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          • keith_head
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            #35
            From a promoter's point of view it would be ****** to take a risky fight when your next fight after that is either Joshua or Klitschko. He stands to make millions and millions from that fight.

            It sucks but I doubt we'll see him fight a challenging fight before one of those two. Even if he wants it, there's no way a promoter is going to take that risk when there's huge money on the table.

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            • Fury4daWIN
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
              I get what you're saying, but you're not acknowledging the changes in the heavyweight landscape after Wilder made the statement. In August, Fury, Klitschko, and Joshua were an option for him upon his comeback. To me the message in August was, hey I wanna fight the those guys when i come back. By November, they were not. Wilder isn't doing anything different from every other heavyweight with a name. Fight easy fights until you can make the big ones. What other heavyweight is taking "tough" fights?
              Already been mentioned, Joseph Parker.

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              • Fury4daWIN
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                #37
                Originally posted by Clegg
                I think maybe you need some help translating English into English. When Wilder said "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups" what he was saying was "I'm fighting the best straight away, no tune ups". The clue is in the words. He was not saying "I'm gonna fight a bum as a 'rehab' fight" so no idea how you managed to think he stuck to his word one this one.

                Wilder told his dumb fans that he wouldn't have an easy fight back, that he wanted the best possible opponents, the top 3 guys or at least top 10 guys. Fans believed it. Then when yet again it's shown that he was lying, rather than admitting what is there in black and white you say that anyone who spots the lie is being "hateful". I don't hate the guy, you don't see me calling him a coward or a pussy, I've enjoyed his fights but I just don't think people should continually make excuses for him promising tough opponents and then picking random nobodies.

                When Wilder name dropped the big dogs and then Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Wawrzyk were chosen as opponents, you were happy about that?

                Nah, Povetkin is a piece of shit, I'd be happy if he got a lifetime ban. The problem with Wilder fans is that they always want to change the subject due to losing the argument. We started out talking about how Wilder promised a good opponent and then picked a weak one and rather than admit he should be facing someone better you tried to say the other belt holders weren't facing better opposition either, then I pointed out that ALL of them are facing tougher opponents and you try to change it to 'only because of big money' and the Povetkin nonsense.

                Personally I dislike belt holders having the attitude that they will only fight guys outside the top #40 unless they get paid retirement money but if that's how you see Wilder and support it then ok, he's not the only guy in the sport like that, but it's not something I'm a fan of.
                Impossible to argue with any of this, and it more or less articulates my entire stance on the matter.

                The Povetkin fiasco threw a massive spanner in the works but Wilder had it within his power to make the best out of the situation and instead he wet the bed. No one forced him to fight Arreola, no one was responsible for his getting the injuries, no one is forcing him to fight a complete no hoper in a title defence masquerading as a rehabilitation fight. These are all choices he and his team have made on their own and they need to be held accountable for them.

                And while all those actions can in some measure be justified by the circumstances they simply don't sync up with what he continually propounds to be, a man willing to take on all comers. He's a paper champ and he needs to accept that, or prove otherwise by his actions, not his empty loud mouthed fronting.
                Last edited by Fury4daWIN; 12-25-2016, 09:11 AM.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #38
                  wilder's next and last few fights are absolutely embarrassing. There's nothing else to say. Povetkin is not an excuse there are PLENTY of other top fighters out there who would want to fight Wilder in february.

                  The dude is on an absolute stink of a run of opponents. He's not champion worthy imo and also he's just not that good either.

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                  • Randall Cunning
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by keith_head
                    From a promoter's point of view it would be ****** to take a risky fight when your next fight after that is either Joshua or Klitschko. He stands to make millions and millions from that fight.

                    It sucks but I doubt we'll see him fight a challenging fight before one of those two. Even if he wants it, there's no way a promoter is going to take that risk when there's huge money on the table.
                    He aint getting the fight in 2017. Should fight Fury become lineal, do something to make Joshua a Vegas fight. The moneys all in Europe for Heavyweights, its up to him to make himself an appealing fight in Vegas.

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                    • Porter's Dad
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                      #40
                      I actually believe him. There is HUGE money in fighting the AJ-Wlad winner, rather than just plodding along making OK money against over-matched opponents, and keep breaking his hands.

                      Actually, I'm not sure the AJ-Wlad winner will want to go straight into a Wilder fight. I like/rate Deontay, he is an improving fighter. But 2017 is the year he has to make a big step-up.

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