The Nevada State Athletic Comission called USADA "unprofessional and unnaceptable"

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  • original zero
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    1) Why is the NSAC saying that USADA didn't have the authority to grant a TUE? why is NSAC calling them unprofessional for doing so? how is it that an IV is not illegal by the NSAC, but the NSAC director is saying that it needs NSAC approval first?
    because the NSAC was doing damage control to distract people from the fact that IVs are allowed in nevada. only NSAC can grant an exemption to nevada rules, but what floyd did was allowed under nevada rules. so a nevada exemption wasn't needed. what was needed was a USADA exemption, since floyd & pac voluntarily agreed to regulations stricter than NSAC required.

    but the situation exposed the fact that NSAC rules are behind the times. which is why the NSAC hemmed and hawed to sound strong in the eyes of the media & fans, hoping nobody would notice that NSAC rules are so weak that floyd was forced to hire an outside agency to make sure manny was clean.


    2) Why did it take three weeks to USADA to approve the IV? It's not reasonable. It was approved instantly by the USADA people that was there with Mayweather, but officially it took them three weeks to grant a TUE? doesn't make sense to me, and doesn't make sense to NSAC. Don't play smart with me.
    doesn't make sense to you because you have no idea what you're talking about. the doping control officer that was there in person does not have the authority to approve anything. TUE has to be applied for so USADA can investigate, speak to the DCO, medical professionals, gather the facts, etc and determine if the use was legitimate.

    that takes time. in this instance, a few weeks. which isn't uncommon at all.

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    • _Maxi
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      #22
      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
      You're ******.

      It says they won't adopt the full WADA code. That means they won't follow all the rules.
      But it says they will continue to follow the banned substances and banned methods by WADA. Check mate son. Once again.
      Originally posted by original zero
      because the NSAC was doing damage control to distract people from the fact that IVs are allowed in nevada. only NSAC can grant an exemption to nevada rules, but what floyd did was allowed under nevada rules. so a nevada exemption wasn't needed. what was needed was a USADA exemption, since floyd & pac voluntarily agreed to regulations stricter than NSAC required.

      but the situation exposed the fact that NSAC rules are behind the times. which is why the NSAC hemmed and hawed to sound strong in the eyes of the media & fans, hoping nobody would notice that NSAC rules are so weak that floyd was forced to hire an outside agency to make sure manny was clean.

      doesn't make sense to you because you have no idea what you're talking about. the doping control officer that was there in person does not have the authority to approve anything. TUE has to be applied for so USADA can investigate, speak to the DCO, medical professionals, gather the facts, etc and determine if the use was legitimate.

      that takes time. in this instance, a few weeks. which isn't uncommon at all.
      Yeeeah right. It took them three weeks. How convenient.

      Also, NSAC states that they were following WADA and USADA prohibited list which includes Substances and Methods, which prohibits IVs.

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      • _Maxi
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        #23
        And this is just a bonus because I'm going to sleep....

        In 2014, USADA disrecommended IVs for rehydration and linked it to PEDs masking. Leaving it only for extreme cases, and recommending oral rehydration as a superior way to rehydrate. Also stated that there was no science studies behind proving an IV could help to rehydrate better than oral mehods. LMAO.

        http://www.usada.org/is-it-prohibite...-and-recovery/

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          #24
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          But it says they will continue to follow the banned substances and banned methods by WADA. Check mate son. Once again.

          Yeeeah right. It took them three weeks. How convenient.

          Also, NSAC states that they were following WADA and USADA prohibited list which includes Substances and Methods, which prohibits IVs.
          USADA say it isn't illegal under NSAC.
          UFC fighters say they were allowed to use IV's under NSAC.
          NSAC doesn't follow the full WADA code.
          DLH had an IV right before the Pacquiao fight.

          How about you provide something with NSAC saying Saline IV's are illegal. You special needs ******.
          Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 12-22-2016, 01:50 AM.

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            #25
            if NSAC didn't allow IV, why did NSAC say mayweather did nothing wrong?

            if NSAC didn't allow IV, why have so many fighters spoken publicly about using IVs in nevada?

            whose interpretation of the NSAC rules should we trust? maxi's? or the NSAC?

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              #26
              Floyd mayweather = lance armstrong

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              • _Maxi
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                #27
                Originally posted by original zero
                if NSAC didn't allow IV, why did NSAC say mayweather did nothing wrong?

                if NSAC didn't allow IV, why have so many fighters spoken publicly about using IVs in nevada?

                whose interpretation of the NSAC rules should we trust? maxi's? or the NSAC?
                Well the NSAC director says USADA broke the rules, not me.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  Well the NSAC director says USADA broke the rules, not me.
                  He never said that. The NSAC director used clever language to make simple minded people like you assume that's what he was saying, even though he was very careful to never say that.

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                    #29
                    The NSAC calling some other entity unprofessional is hilarious first off. Watch any of their hearings & you'll see what dip****s they are. The NSAC Nick Diaz hearing is maybe the heavyweight championship of dumb & petty **** by a authority in sports at the state level.

                    And the biggest problem with testing is its a ****** test in boxing. Don't use a banned substance before a fight & you're good cuz testing only begins in the 2-6 weeks before a fight. The UFC, which uses the USADA, tests 24/7/365 & they are popping someone every couple weeks lol. And I don't for a minute believe that UFC guys are using banned substances at like a 1200% higher rate than boxers. Its just that the NSAC, USADA & VADA have bs ass testing limits with when they can & can't test that GREATLY reduced the ability to catch PED users in boxing.

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                      #30
                      You all missed the part where NSAC said having his IV at home and not the hospital meant that it should have been investigated by the NSAC doctor

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