Originally posted by ramses07
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Who ranks high? Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez
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Marquez by far... beats morales in every category
Longevity
Skills
Multiple divisions
Never blown out by manny
Don't even see how it's debatable
Fanboys just love morales' exciting style but he was not on Marquez's level
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Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View PostIdiot the third fight was a robbery and in the first, except the one round, Marquez ripped Pacquiao in the 11 rounds.
There is not doubt, Marquez won the rivalry vs Pacquiao.
That cut was not nothing to PAcquiao, ****, man, is PAcquiao, no ****in MAtthysse.With that or not, Morales will be the winner because in that time he was in prime, or in a good condition.
Erik had all the tools in prime to defeat pacquiao like he did in the first fight.
That was at the end of Morales, and that situation is a great problem in Mexico, Vargas had the same problem too and was clean.
And in the second fight the difference was clear, Morales kept on getting tagged by that right hook to the body and head. Morales lost to Pacquiao 2 out of 3 times FACT, with one win was questionable and shady.
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Originally posted by pacphobia View PostHe fought a nobody in Serhiy Fedchenko for the vacant interim WBO and never defended it but still got promoted to full version. Thanks to Paco Valcarcel he became a 4 division champ
Marquez at 135 was stopping champs like Juan Diaz, casamoyer and katsidis
140 neither did anything.. 147 Marquez iced a guy named manny
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Originally posted by ComicDon View PostFeatherweight
Junior Lightweight
Lightweight
He hasn't won a title pass these divisions friend. Know your boxing before challenging the Don.
Was a paper title but he got it against serghiy fedchenko in April 2012
http://boxrec.com/boxer/12222
Morales did the same thing to get the light welterweight title.
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Marquez is the greatest modern day Mexican fighter. Never had the support or following of the fans/press yet had the most accomplished career.
Unlike Morales he never quit in the ring and was the true embodiment of a Mexican warrior. No diva antics either unlike Morales and his glove demands.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostMarquez by far... beats morales in every category
Longevity
Skills
Multiple divisions
Never blown out by manny
Don't even see how it's debatable
Fanboys just love morales' exciting style but he was not on Marquez's level
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Originally posted by Face Of Boxing View PostLmao at this nonsense. Morales didn't need four fights to get a single win. Skills? Lmao. Morales was more skilled and consistently fought better fighters.
Name the better fighters
Marquez has
Manny 4 times
Tim Bradley
Casamoyer
Katsidis
Juan Diaz twice
Barrera
Chris John
Floyd mayweather
And who got knocked out multiple times and got beat by David freaking Diaz
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostFanboy alert!!!!!!
Name the better fighters
Marquez has
Manny 4 times
Tim Bradley
Casamoyer
Katsidis
Juan Diaz twice
Barrera
Chris John
Floyd mayweather
And who got knocked out multiple times and got beat by David freaking Diaz
Again, didn't win against John boy.
Past-it Barrera, but good on him.
Diaz, Katsidis, & Casamayor are nice wins, but none are A-level by any stretch of the imagination. Barrera & Manny were.
He got beat clearly by Bradley.
All he has is Manny four times, and that's because of a styles clash, not his actual credentials. You wouldn't put him on Manny's level, would you?
Seriously, go take a look at both of their resumes. You can't tell me that Morales' isn't better?
41-0 with wins over McCullough, Jones, Zaragosa, Kelley, Juarez, BARRERA, then 48-2 with more wins over green Pacquiao, Ayala, Hernandez & Chavez unify.
PS, longevity? Morales won his first title six year before Marquez, and they each held their last in 2011. Marquez lost to a guy named Freddy... Morales was closer than anything in beating a monster in Maidana to win a belt at 140 with one eye shut...
It it because Morales lost both trilogies to Barrera & Manny coupled with Marquez having a KO victory of Manny the reasons you dislike Morales?
Would you put Barrera over both?
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Originally posted by pacphobia View PostHe fought a nobody in Serhiy Fedchenko for the vacant interim WBO and never defended it but still got promoted to full version. Thanks to Paco Valcarcel he became a 4 division champ
And you forget that Marquez deserved be champ in 147 but thanks to the robbery in the first fight Pacquiao vs Bradley he never was.
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