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ward and chocolatito are cowards bcuz they want more $ in rematch 4 fights they won

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  • #21
    Originally posted by aldo5408 View Post
    Rashue sucks bro. That's what's wrong with boxing dude couldn't win a meaningful Olympic fight and now he's a champion too many belts!. If Warren fights any of the other champs he gets sparked out
    The TS has another thread talking about Raushee and I just talked to him about it. According to TS Raushee is good. Lol

    Dude got 3 tries at the Olympics and never made it past 1st round. And you can argue that his style isn't for the amateurs but guess what? He doesn't even look good in the pros either. Even when fighting TBA's.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by j0zef View Post
      Why are you lumping them together? They're nothing alike.

      Ward just fought for $5M in an event that lost a ton of money and is talking about retirement.

      Chocolatito fought for $400K while headlining an HBO telecast and is not talking about retirement.

      The two have absolutely nothing in common.
      They both want more $ for rematches vs opponents they beat and posters are on hearing calling them cowards


      That's what they have in common....chocolate said he won't be forced to fight for low $$ smdh...... Keep up

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      • #23
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        both won exciting first fights with top opposition....the rematches will have more viewers, more gate $$ and more hype....the fights were exciting....how can a fighter be afraid of someone they already fought? Simply put, they deserve more money because everyone else involved will be getting more $$...common sense
        Who's calling Gonzalez a coward the guy only earned $400,000.00 for fighting the best guy of his new division, he gave us all a war a great little fight.

        Ward earned $5 million as a challenger and many people around the world thought he lost that fight!
        Ward was negative in his approach he never really once in the fight for a round or two took the initiative to go on the front foot be the aggressor, his primarily punch in his arsenal was a good flashy jab but sadly Ward like he has done in many other big fights he held too much and didn't focus on landing enough scoring shots like Kovalev was doing.

        These situation aren't even the same at all, Gonzalez is recognized at P4P#1 by many people and he gives us continuous good fights nobody is going to complain with him asking for $800k or $1 mil he's earned it he really did beat Cuadras there was no controversy at all in his fight!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by John Locke View Post
          He already explained it. Because the fights will generate more money the second time around, therefore the fighters deserve more money. I don't know how much simpler that can be explained.

          It's easy for boxingscene.com experts like you to decide how much a fighter makes, you're not the one who's put in years of hard work, years of sacrifice and you're definitely not the one getting punched in the face.

          You do know a fighter usually ends up with no more than 30/35% of their initial purse? So Gonzalez got no more than 130/140k of his 400k purse against Cuadras, in a very exciting fight in which he took a lot of damage. So of course he deserves more money.
          Thank you for reiterating my point....damn these idiots don't even read the OP before they post


          Acting like I'm typing in French....many lack comprehensive thinking on this site

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          • #25
            If Ward wants more than $5 million for an unprofitable rematch fight, man that's just ******.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
              The TS has another thread talking about Raushee and I just talked to him about it. According to TS Raushee is good. Lol

              Dude got 3 tries at the Olympics and never made it past 1st round. And you can argue that his style isn't for the amateurs but guess what? He doesn't even look good in the pros either. Even when fighting TBA's.
              bro..you really cant comprehend what you read can you?

              I asked was yamanaka lineal and should he and rau'shee unify...who wins


              whether it looked good or not, his style, it was effective enough for him to win a legitimate world title


              I ask you why you said he sucks....you said because he went to the Olympics 3 times and failed....what does the amateur accolades have to do with the pros?

              world champions from the US today, outside of ward and Wilder, haven't even won a medal let alone have even made the Olympics...its been the since 90s


              the quality of trolling has plummeted on this site.....do better bro

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              • #27
                Originally posted by EddieHearn View Post
                Who's calling Gonzalez a coward the guy only earned $400,000.00 for fighting the best guy of his new division, he gave us all a war a great little fight.

                Ward earned $5 million as a challenger and many people around the world thought he lost that fight!
                Ward was negative in his approach he never really once in the fight for a round or two took the initiative to go on the front foot be the aggressor, his primarily punch in his arsenal was a good flashy jab but sadly Ward like he has done in many other big fights he held too much and didn't focus on landing enough scoring shots like Kovalev was doing.

                These situation aren't even the same at all, Gonzalez is recognized at P4P#1 by many people and he gives us continuous good fights nobody is going to complain with him asking for $800k or $1 mil he's earned it he really did beat Cuadras there was no controversy at all in his fight!
                go to the threads where they are discussing the Cuadras rematch....its some idiots on this forum...that was a great fight and roman has been fighting top guys regularly

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  go to the threads where they are discussing the Cuadras rematch....its some idiots on this forum...that was a great fight and roman has been fighting top guys regularly
                  Well yeah they're idiots then, Gonzalez should easily be making a few million for the commitment he has put into the sport but luckily he will likely get that payday with a big fight in Japan with Inoue.

                  Ward should get $6-7 million I just hope he isn't trying to get the type of cash which sees Kovalev earning even less than he did in the first fight.
                  Tbf I ain't sure how the PPV fight with these two work whether they were earning flat fees or a percentage.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by EddieHearn View Post
                    Well yeah they're idiots then, Gonzalez should easily be making a few million for the commitment he has put into the sport but luckily he will likely get that payday with a big fight in Japan with Inoue.

                    Ward should get $6-7 million I just hope he isn't trying to get the type of cash which sees Kovalev earning even less than he did in the first fight.
                    Tbf I ain't sure how the PPV fight with these two work whether they were earning flat fees or a percentage.
                    if it don't make $$$ it don't make sense and I see where they are coming from...I feel both rematches will happen

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                    • #30
                      problem is ward's fight lost money so its up to roc nation if they want to lose more. for people who want to see the rematch they should be begging roc nation to subsiize wards losses some more. no one else in boxing can do anything since other people in boxing want to make money(cept haymon)

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