Wlad Will KO Jousha....Tyson Fury Is On Another Level

[FlatLine]

sparring is so different from actual fights though.

It's definitely different but Joshua would be familiar with the angles Klitschko's coming in at because as a veteran Wlad's style was already established whereas Joshua would have improved and changed things since they sparred. It should be easier for Joshua to predict how Klitschko will fight than vice versa.

[Dr Rumack]

i get all of that but why wait til fight night to be inept ? he knew damn well how tall/big fury was. hes seen tape. wlad knows the the prefight drills. there were no secrets.

i dont think a wlad from even 5 years ago breaks a sweat vs fury. fury has yet to impress me (that self uppercut came close).

I don't know what his plan was. I suspect he thought Fury would give him openings when he was trying to score himself, but that didn't happen very often. Fury landed next to nothing in the first six rounds and not a whole lot afterwards either. But Wlad's inactivity persuaded the judges that Fury was doing more I guess, even though Fury was mainly just feinting and throwing air jabs.

But we see counterpunchers get undressed by other counterpunchers all the time. JMM vs Floyd. Donaire vs Rigo. Trout vs Lara. It always looks like the loser came with no plan whatsoever, but really it was just that they couldn't do the only thing they know how to do. When you see how horrible counterpunchers look when they're forced to lead, it explodes the myth of them being more skillful than offensive fighters.

[Elroy The Great]

It's definitely different but Joshua would be familiar with the angles Klitschko's coming in at because as a veteran Wlad's style was already established whereas Joshua would have improved and changed things since they sparred. It should be easier for Joshua to predict how Klitschko will fight than vice versa.

same token, wlad should be familiar with aj ?

[Elroy The Great]

I don't know what his plan was. I suspect he thought Fury would give him openings when he was trying to score himself, but that didn't happen very often. Fury landed next to nothing in the first six rounds and not a whole lot afterwards either. But Wlad's inactivity persuaded the judges that Fury was doing more I guess, even though Fury was mainly just feinting and throwing air jabs.

But we see counterpunchers get undressed by other counterpunchers all the time. JMM vs Floyd. Donaire vs Rigo. Trout vs Lara. It always looks like the loser came with no plan whatsoever, but really it was just that they couldn't do the only thing they know how to do. When you see how horrible counterpunchers look when they're forced to lead, it explodes the myth of them being more skillful than offensive fighters.

i thought wlads plan was to catch fury being overanxious. but no one was taking risks. it was pure slop and loads of inactivity. ive never seen wlad in such a shltty fight. even when he got ktfo he had his moments.

you cant counter when no one is throwing. at least thats how it appeared. the absolute worst hw title fight ever.

[Dr Rumack]

you cant counter when no one is throwing. at least thats how it appeared. the absolute worst hw title fight ever.

Certainly the least violent.

[Elroy The Great]

Certainly the least violent.

sad and funny at the same time

[Weltschmerz]

I'm not sure. Joshua does still have a very thin resume though so it's obviously a big risk at this stage. They obviously feel confident enough after Vlad-Fury to still carry through with it.

[Idgogay4AJ]

[FONT="Verdana"]Plenty of power there, not sure who told you otherwise. Granite chin. Bambi on ice? More like Sweet Pea in Goliath's body.[/


Gets rocked off any fighter that catches him, cant knock any top heavy out, ... I've watched him since he turned pro and honestly cant believe he has got this far.

[E10Rifle]

Not sure where the couple of suggestions that AJ is chinny come from. The huge left hook that Whyte (a fairly big puncher) caught him with? He rode that pretty well, all things considered. Most heavyweights would have been on their arse.

The worst thing you can say about AJ's whiskers is that they're 'unproven'. And seeing as Klitchko never even got close to hurting Fury (who IS proven as a bit chinny), I'm not sure all these claims about Wlad being able to KO AJ should be being made with such confidence.

A real 50-50 for me still. Can't wait.

[dan_cov]

Wlads age & inactivity worries me.
It'll be around 3 years come fight night since he looked decent and those opponents were terrible.

Then again Joshua doesn't have the upper body movement of say a Jennings.
Wlad will have no trouble finding Joshua as long as he isn't going to be his rather usual tentative self.

I don't know I'm really torn on this one. Too many question marks for me to even try & predict how it will go down. All I know is prime Wlad knocks him the hell out.