Wilder or Povetkin, who was at fault?

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  • Humean
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    #11
    Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
    And if that's true, he should have came into the ring clean and proven that.

    Short of doing that, there is no reasonable thing Wilder can do other than to call off the fight. It is silly to expect anything else from a fighter when the other one gets popped.
    There is no such thing as 'clean'. All athletes are doing things to enhance their performance, some are legal (train at altitude) and others are not (use EPO), even though they all enhance performance and in this example they both do so by increasing red blood cells.

    Povetkin is a doper like many others, maybe Wilder doesn't, that is his decision but I have no more respect for it than if he chose to dope like Povetkin. I'm just annoyed Povetkin was either dumb enough, or unlucky enough, to get caught twice!

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    • Jedi Vader
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      #12
      Originally posted by Humean
      Both, mostly Povetkin but Wilder still should have went ahead with it, big payday and an opportunity to prove himself and gain some much needed credibility.
      Only on Boxingscene where you are at fault for not fighting a PED user.

      Some of the posters on this site make me sick.

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      • boliodogs
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        #13
        I never blamed Wilder even before Povetkin failed for the 2nd time. When your opponent fails a drug test you don't fight him. Its as simple as that.

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        • _Maxi
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          #14
          Originally posted by Humean
          There is no such thing as 'clean'. All athletes are doing things to enhance their performance, some are legal (train at altitude) and others are not (use EPO), even though they all enhance performance and in this example they both do so by increasing red blood cells.

          Povetkin is a doper like many others, maybe Wilder doesn't, that is his decision but I have no more respect for it than if he chose to dope like Povetkin. I'm just annoyed Povetkin was either dumb enough, or unlucky enough, to get caught twice!
          Smart post..

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          • JAB5239
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            #15
            Well let's look at this objectively. The WBC cancelled it. No fault of Wilders. For the second time Povetkin is in question. I think the answer is obvious.

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            • Weebler I
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              #16
              It was always Povetkin's fault, even though it had only recently been banned, he was using a heart medication to enhance performance.

              Sure, Wilder might be a protected hype job but at least he isn't a drugs cheat.

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              • b00g13man
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                #17
                The fact that the question needs to be asked is a sad thing.

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                • BrometheusBob.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Humean
                  There is no such thing as 'clean'. All athletes are doing things to enhance their performance, some are legal (train at altitude) and others are not (use EPO), even though they all enhance performance and in this example they both do so by increasing red blood cells.

                  Povetkin is a doper like many others, maybe Wilder doesn't, that is his decision but I have no more respect for it than if he chose to dope like Povetkin. I'm just annoyed Povetkin was either dumb enough, or unlucky enough, to get caught twice!
                  Regardless of what you think of the methods used, both fighters agreed to do testing in which certain things were known to both sides to be off of the table. Povetkin agreed to take part in the fight and the testing, but nevertheless broke the agreed upon rules by taking one of the banned substances. That's on him, no matter what you say.

                  You might not like the rules, but if you enter a contest and understand the rules up front and break any of them that failure is on you.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by b00g13man
                    The fact that the question needs to be asked is a sad thing.
                    In general yes. But not when you look at the people on here that blamed Wilder.

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                    • DeadLikeMe
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                      #20
                      That settles that

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