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  • #51
    Completely baseless argument really. There's plenty of reasons someone would pass one test and then fail a later one.

    I gave Povetkin benefit of the doubt when he turned into a ripped muscleman post Wlad. But that all dissapeared with the first failed test, and now he fails another one for good measure.

    The fact people are still trying to defend this cheat is laughable. He could have seriously injured Duhuapas last night. Speaks volumes about the chaotic nature of the sport that he was allowed to fight after failing a second drugs test this year.

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    • #52
      It just means doping methods are ahead of the testing, which will always be true. The testing can only react to testing methods, so by the time you develop the test to bust a method the cheaters have a new one.

      Which tells you how bad Povetkin must be doping to get busted twice in a single year despite that.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by SCEN3RY View Post
        It's just a matter of beating the tests. Olympians are doing it consistently at the highest level every single time. VADA is no exception. He beat the test a number of times and then he didn't. It's certainly strange he gets caught closer to the fight, when evidence shows steroid use is most effective during heavy training, not when a guy is tapering off. That's worth an eyebrow raise, sure, otherwise it looks like he just found a way to beat the tests until now.
        The bold is the point, bro.

        What is the point of PEDs? To help you when you're training.

        If you're cycling OFF - which we assume he must have done at least two weeks prior to the fight if not more - there's no way he should have popped this close to the fight after not popping leading up to.

        Let's assume for a moment he was doing it to cut for endurance, which I don't believe, because while Ostarine can help with that, it takes time - months in some cases. But I've never in the many years of boxing seen a sanctioning body put out a statement actually admitting that they're rushing the results out because it's so close to the fight. Never.

        WBC had to know at least a week back that he popped. My heartburn is the timing of the announcement being made, which again can only be due to incompetence or corruption.

        I don't think the results were falsified. Ostarine isn't a steroid, just acts like one, and it's entirely possible it was in a supplement where the nutritionist simply didn't do their research whether it was banned regardless. I think someone at WBC screwed up, whether intentionally or unintentionally. We should have known this much earlier.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by revelated View Post
          VADA is either incompetent or crooked.

          And I remember quite a few peeps around here getting on Mayweather for using "Crooked" USADA instead of VADA for random testing.

          Something doesn't add up. How do you get busted on a test just before the fight but not tests leading up to it? It's like he juiced the day before the fight - but that wouldn't do anything for him except maybe help him cut a bit.

          The Duhaupas KO seems to confirm what people have been saying though - boxing's decline is directly matched to the cleanup of the sport. Put them on the juice, you see those brutal KO's from the 80's. No juice, better get used to Kovalev/Ward level bouts for the future.

          Might as well let them both do it at this point.
          He was probably cycling off in time and the tests didnt catch it. Or was masking it well. PED users can do a really good job of getting away with it. If they slip up just a little though they can get caught, or if the testing is frequent wich it looks like it was. Eventually you will get busted.

          Just look at the UFC and usada. Once USADA came in they were busting guys left and right when random testing finally came in.Before that everyone was able to cycle off and mask it because they knew when the tests were coming and they barely ever got tested.

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          • #55
            This is probably closer to an explanation.

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