Comments Thread For: Povetkin vs. Stiverne - WBC Withdraws Sanction - Full Ruling!

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I thought the same but he was definitely dumb enough to pop twice. Going forward if he's still allowed to fight no one is going to go to Russia and fight him.

It would be ****** to fight Povetkin or anyone else for that matter in Russia. It would also be ****** to fight any Eastern Euro anywhere in the world without testing.

[r1onnie2]

What in the ****, dude?

I guess I was confused cause I refused to believe someone would be dumb enough to pop a second time...

I thought the same but he was definitely dumb enough to pop twice. Going forward if he's still allowed to fight no one is going to go to Russia and fight him.

[Drunken Cat]

Actually, no, in a purse bid fight like this one that's not the case. Stiverne likely got nothing up front, maybe his hotel rooms in Russia were pre-paid.

This is in large part what the Wilder-Ryabinski/Povetkin lawsuit is over. Wilder is out six figures for his training and travel and lodging expenses for his training camp for Povetkin.

And I'd say any chance of Wilder losing that lawsuit just went down the drain with the Russian boxing/doping establishment.

I was just speculating before really, but yeah I guess I stand corrected, as demonstrated by the lawsuit. Probably, anyway.

[saintpat]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
I'd be surprised if that happens. He isn't well off, and did all the prep and traveled to Russia. That isn't something just anyone can afford to write off. It's a paycheck, and he's there already. It would actually be a bad biz move to withdraw. But you never can tell. He may just withdraw and surprise a lot of the fans. Who knows.



Thanx. Hopefully Stiverne does in fact get some money. Can't live on credit cards all the time.

Actually, no, in a purse bid fight like this one that's not the case. Stiverne likely got nothing up front, maybe his hotel rooms in Russia were pre-paid.

This is in large part what the Wilder-Ryabinski/Povetkin lawsuit is over. Wilder is out six figures for his training and travel and lodging expenses for his training camp for Povetkin.

And I'd say any chance of Wilder losing that lawsuit just went down the drain with the Russian boxing/doping establishment.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
I'd be surprised if that happens. He isn't well off, and did all the prep and traveled to Russia. That isn't something just anyone can afford to write off. It's a paycheck, and he's there already. It would actually be a bad biz move to withdraw. But you never can tell. He may just withdraw and surprise a lot of the fans. Who knows.

The promoter pays the travel expenses, plus in a situation like this a fighter might get some money, I'd think, for their troubles (it's a contract--a settlement type thing). From a business standpoint, Stiverne would be hoping to now be the #1 in the WBC, without having to have fought for it (this was an eliminator). His expenses are paid; he may be paid a little; it's still a bummer and a bad situation. The catch is, he'll make more money for a mandatory shot against Wilder, probably, than he would against Povetkin. That's the main reason he pulled out, and that's the business of it. Smart in a way, but the old timers would have been, "we're here to fight, you got our money Mr. Promoter, here I am, let's fight."
That's not the way it works these days though.

Thanx. Hopefully Stiverne does in fact get some money. Can't live on credit cards all the time.

[The Hammer]

lol..........wow

James Toney said "WBC stands for We Be Crooks"

He was right.

[Larry the boss]

I don't trust the WBC (WE Be Crooks) or trust VADA either.

This is just more of the usual anti-Russian politics, corruption and lies.

lol..........wow

[JASON SHAW]

it wont help that stiverne was popped.

he was popped for having energy drink chemicals and diet pills...

The dirty russian got popped for steroids that increase your recovery and stamina!!!! Huge frigging difference....

[JASON SHAW]

seriously, really? Do you really think stiverne is cheating? Just look at the tires around his waist he is carrying around. If he is cheating he should get a refund on his drugs.

this is a typical way for racist americans and russians to defend the dirty 2 time doping russian cheat..... They now want to blame stiverne for his energy drink and diet pills...

They gave pedvetkin a pass for meldonium and are trying again to give him a pass for this

[JASON SHAW]

Rip to all the racist americans that defended this dirty russian doper.... Every racist boxing fan that blamed wilder should commit suicide for the good of boxing...

We dont need dirty lying casual racist fans in boxing who defend dirty dopers and blame americans for not fighting dirty russian dopers.....