Comments Thread For: Chavez Jr Not Worried About 165 Catch-Weight For Canelo

[boxingitis]

but according to all ggg fans all those guys that you mentioned ducked him lol. Nt true. Canelo vacating his belt was a duck, lol, not true. Ggg has his biggest pay day offered to him at his preferred weight against boxings cash cow and most popular boxer on the planet not named pac or money. I think the chance for him to become the main man in boxing is more of a reward than the money he is being offered which is his highest pay day anyway. But that chance to be the man of the sport and call shots be absolute a side in any negotiations till he loses, is what's the reward here. When you see it in that perspective, 10 mil is more than fair

Remember when Marquez beat Pacquiao? Did Marquez become a PPV Star? Just because you beat the top cash cow in boxing doesnt make a PPV star. It take multiple fights with big names. 60% Canelo to 40 % GGG. GGG brings 4 titles WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO. Im already in favor of Canelo because their are more Mexicans in American who would buy the PPV compare to Kazak people in America. Again Canelo is not a PPV Mega star, 250 K PPVs on Mexican Indpendence Day vs Smith.

[Beercules]

those love taps were hard?

Yes. Love taps, same ones that broke Angulos face.

[aboutfkntime]

Him fighting away from the middleweight division twice is him vacating the division, in nearly all places which care about that stuff

I agree with that..... but, the problem is this.....

* Canelo has never fought AT middleweight
* Canelo has never fought A middleweight
* Canelo has been the WBO JMW champ since Sep

I just think that ranking by lineage is ridiculous, period.

Canelo has never been a genuine middleweight, let alone a genuine middleweight champ, let alone the best in the division..... it is absurd to refer to him as a middleweight "anything"

Jacobs paper belt doesn't mean anything in relation to lineage, he's the 2nd best fighter at the weight

I think you might be confusing The Ring (and others) methodology, with lineage..... having the #1/#2 fight to determine the champion

The Ring do not crown lineage..... they use it to determine rankings, unfortunately

the only way a lineal champ can be recognized is when a fighter unifies ALL of the titles, or beats someone who has

lineage is waaaay over-rated..... back in the day there was no lineal champ, because we had a real champ

YOU think that Jacobs/Golovkin can beat Saunders

you are probably right, we will know if/when that ever happens

[aboutfkntime]

Remember when Marquez beat Pacquiao? Did Marquez become a PPV Star? Just because you beat the top cash cow in boxing doesnt make a PPV star. It take multiple fights with big names. 60% Canelo to 40 % GGG. GGG brings 4 titles WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO. Im already in favor of Canelo because their are more Mexicans in American who would buy the PPV compare to Kazak people in America. Again Canelo is not a PPV Mega star, 250 K PPVs on Mexican Indpendence Day vs Smith.

when has Golovkin ever beaten a big name ?

You just admitted that Golovkin has NO leverage whatsoever and NO justification to demand more money from Canelo.

[kafkod]

when has Golovkin ever beaten a big name ?

You just admitted that Golovkin has NO leverage whatsoever and NO justification to demand more money from Canelo.

Ffs, why can't you get this through your ****** head ... Golovkin isn't demanding anything from Canelo, not one cent.

What he wants is a percentage share of the income the fight generates.

[kafkod]

165? but canelita is a 154lb fighter hahahaha

Lol. He is when GGG comes calling.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

jr looked like a big LHW in his last fight, it might happen it might end up looking like cotto-margarito

man I like em both but Lets see would love to see a great figth liek that. I was War Chavez Before I went to War Canelo I dont know who ill root for.

[uniquehump]

I'm starting to like Jr. I like his outlook and how it appears he wants to fight Canelo for the Sport of Boxing. It will be huge for Cinco De Mayo and he appeared to focused on staying in shape. The winner will most likely fight GGG. If Canelo can fight at 165, then there won't be any excuse for not fighting at 160, especially if he wins. If he loses, he may get a pass for making Khan go up. That fight will do huge numbers and the GGG fight may even become bigger.

[Dr Rumack]

Does that mean the fight is in Texas?

[techliam]

I agree with that..... but, the problem is this.....

* Canelo has never fought AT middleweight
* Canelo has never fought A middleweight
* Canelo has been the WBO JMW champ since Sep

I just think that ranking by lineage is ridiculous, period.

Canelo has never been a genuine middleweight, let alone a genuine middleweight champ, let alone the best in the division..... it is absurd to refer to him as a middleweight "anything"





I think you might be confusing The Ring (and others) methodology, with lineage..... having the #1/#2 fight to determine the champion

The Ring do not crown lineage..... they use it to determine rankings, unfortunately

the only way a lineal champ can be recognized is when a fighter unifies ALL of the titles, or beats someone who has

lineage is waaaay over-rated..... back in the day there was no lineal champ, because we had a real champ

YOU think that Jacobs/Golovkin can beat Saunders

you are probably right, we will know if/when that ever happens

We've argued about lineages before so it comes as a shock to realise you don't understand what the lineal system is

What you refer to in terms of unifying all the titles is an Undisputed Championship. This is completely different to a lineal champion. A good example is Roy Jones, who was the Undisputed champion at 175, but was not the lineal champion

The lineal champion is supposed to be 'the man who beat the man' (the man is a loose term), in that the championship is handed over when you beat the current holder. If the championship becomes vacant, the 1 vs 2 fighters vie for the title. The RING became a very unpopular version of the lineal title when it started recognising match ups like 2 vs 5 for its version.

Whilst a good system in theory, it falls flat when the current holder of the lineal title is not the no.1 fighter in the division