Comments Thread For: Wilder: Can't Trust Russians; Stiverne Can't Beat Povetkin in Russia

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Evgeny Gradovich, Vasyl Lomachenko, Sergey Kovalev, all these eastern-euros made their professional debuts, live ; train on American soil now look at them world champions what other country gave them this opportunity? land of free home of the brave...USA and the list just keeps getting bigger no way these guys would get respect in the UK...thats right suck it haters.

What are you talking about? British fans don't go around like American fans with all these smear campaigns and hate all the time. British fans give them the respect they deserve. All anyone gets from you lot is poison.

Oh, and USA home of the brave? Hahahahahahaha I must have missed that one. When did this happen?

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I don't know how an American can accuse anyone of being dodgy when they're the dodgiest on the planet. No nation fails drug tests like the Yanks.

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watching americans criticize russians for doping scandals & rigged decisions is highly comical and ironic

however to correct the article... povetkin never "failed" any drug test. his detection levels turned out to be 100% within the legal limit but they (WBC) still needed someone to blame for the fight falling through after they misinterpreted the results

[Squ□redCircle34]

Get in the ring with him when he knocks Stiverne out cold!

Show the world what a clean, powerhouse and knockout artist looks like against Russia's best in the division and punishi him for his attempts at cleaning his system of melodom or whatever!

[joe strong]

The cancelled fight is long gone. Povetkin is cleared no matter what the circumstances were at the time. Let's get it on! Enough with the talk. Let's see what happens on Saturday. I expect a Povetkin win. Stiverne is a counterpuncher with a solid chin. This worked against Arreola twice as he was able to sit back & absorb Arreola's best shots. He walked through those punches to land his counter bombs. That didn't work against Wilder because Wilder hits a lot harder. Stiverne had no counterpunch answers because he was getting hit with bombs & wasn't able to walk through Wilder's punches unharmed. Povetkin can crack but I don't think he has the same power as Wilder so Stiverne might be able to set some traps but he can't afford to have the fight go to the scorecards. He needs a clean knockout to win. I think the chances of that are slim but he does have good power so you never know.

[hhs661]

I don't know how an American can accuse anyone of being dodgy when they're the dodgiest on the planet. No nation fails drug tests like the Yanks.

No nation? Lol

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No nation? Lol

I don't get it?

[hhs661]

I don't get it?

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The Russian Doping Scandal Keeps on Growing

Artists bathed in lights during the opening ceremony of the 2014 Olympic Games, in Sochi, Russia.
FRANK MAY / DEUTSCHE PRESSE-AGENTUR, VIA ASSOCIATED PRESS
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
DECEMBER 13, 2016
With Russia standing accused of meddling in American politics and in Syria and Ukraine, new revelations about Russian doping in sports might seem anti-climactic. Yet the mountain of new evidence laid out by Richard McLaren, the Canadian lawyer appointed by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to investigate Russia’s doping program, is astounding.

The case against Russia has been building over several years, with a striking turn last spring when the former head of the Russian antidoping laboratory, Grigory Rodchenkov, described to The Times how he participated in a huge, state-supported operation at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics to swap out tainted urine samples from Russian athletes.

WADA asked Mr. McLaren to investigate, and in July — on the eve of the Rio Olympics — he reported that his inquiry had established “beyond a reasonable doubt” that the Russian government, including its secret services, were involved in a far-ranging scheme to supply its athletes with performance-enhancing drugs and covering it up. That led to barring more than a third of Russia’s athletes from the Rio Games, and all Russians from the Paralympics.

On Friday, Mr. McLaren issued the second part of his report, and it provided extensive evidence of extraordinary efforts by Russia’s Ministry of Sport to cook up performance-enhancing drugs and ways to conceal them. These efforts benefited more than 1,000 athletes in at least 30 sports. “For years, international sports competitions have unknowingly been hijacked by the Russians,” Mr. McLaren said when he presented his findings.

Russia’s response was familiar: total denial that there ever was any “state-run” program coupled with pledges to combat doping and complaining that Russia is being unfairly singled out. More telling was Russia’s recent appointment of an athlete who had called last summer’s suspension of Russian athletes “a blatant political order” as the new director of the Russian antidoping agency.

This can’t go on. Mr. McLaren’s findings make it obvious that Russia — and any other country that participates in doping — must be excluded from international sport until WADA can establish that their antidoping efforts are serious and honest.

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The Russian Doping Scandal Keeps on Growing

Artists bathed in lights during the opening ceremony of the 2014 Olympic Games, in Sochi, Russia.
FRANK MAY / DEUTSCHE PRESSE-AGENTUR, VIA ASSOCIATED PRESS
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
DECEMBER 13, 2016
With Russia standing accused of meddling in American politics and in Syria and Ukraine, new revelations about Russian doping in sports might seem anti-climactic. Yet the mountain of new evidence laid out by Richard McLaren, the Canadian lawyer appointed by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to investigate Russia’s doping program, is astounding.

The case against Russia has been building over several years, with a striking turn last spring when the former head of the Russian antidoping laboratory, Grigory Rodchenkov, described to The Times how he participated in a huge, state-supported operation at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics to swap out tainted urine samples from Russian athletes.

WADA asked Mr. McLaren to investigate, and in July — on the eve of the Rio Olympics — he reported that his inquiry had established “beyond a reasonable doubt” that the Russian government, including its secret services, were involved in a far-ranging scheme to supply its athletes with performance-enhancing drugs and covering it up. That led to barring more than a third of Russia’s athletes from the Rio Games, and all Russians from the Paralympics.

On Friday, Mr. McLaren issued the second part of his report, and it provided extensive evidence of extraordinary efforts by Russia’s Ministry of Sport to cook up performance-enhancing drugs and ways to conceal them. These efforts benefited more than 1,000 athletes in at least 30 sports. “For years, international sports competitions have unknowingly been hijacked by the Russians,” Mr. McLaren said when he presented his findings.

Russia’s response was familiar: total denial that there ever was any “state-run” program coupled with pledges to combat doping and complaining that Russia is being unfairly singled out. More telling was Russia’s recent appointment of an athlete who had called last summer’s suspension of Russian athletes “a blatant political order” as the new director of the Russian antidoping agency.

This can’t go on. Mr. McLaren’s findings make it obvious that Russia — and any other country that participates in doping — must be excluded from international sport until WADA can establish that their antidoping efforts are serious and honest.

You should look at the Americans history in sport.

I'm not saying the Russians aren't bad, because they are. But the Americans are by far the worse cheats in the world. They have a proven track record.

[hhs661]

You should look at the Americans history in sport.

I'm not saying the Russians aren't bad, because they are. But the Americans are by far the worse cheats in the world. They have a proven track record.

Show me. Balco isn't even touching how big this scandal is. This is WADA with an independent specialist from Canada finding this out. I'm not ****** enough to say the USA doesn't have cheaters, but it isn't even close to how crooked the Russians are