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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostNo clue, I don't read that guy's shyt either.There's several accounts with names like "Logic", "Expert", "Objective", "Unbiased", etc. I think they're all the same guy because they all have the same opinion and none of them are objective, logical, or knowledgeable. Names like that pretty much serve as a warning that the poster DKSAB. It's like seeing a bottle that says, "Not poison, please drink".
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Too bad American boxers over value their services, imagine what it would be like to get someone like Charlo to come out and fight GGG?!?!
They'd be asking for money that simply wasn't there similar to what Jacobs is doing, UFC fighters put on the biggest fights year by year all the while not being greedy like Jacobs, GGG is the star in this one he worked his way to where he was from Kazakhstan fighting all across the world unlike very many of your gifted, silver spooned, molly coddled American athletes (mainly the boxers not MMA fighters) who have everything their own way!
This GGG Vs. Jacobs fight could have happened in December if it wasn't for the greedy, selfish attitude that people like Floyd Mayweather Jr has created in the boxing world I mean what right do these guys have to be so demanding when they barely even have a big social media following ffs guys like Brad Pickett likely has more of a following than Jacobs!!!
But of course lets try and see one of your idiots on here try to spin it in a different direction lol, British boxing stars are way bigger household names than any absolutely ANY of your current American champions does that not say it all?Last edited by M Bison; 12-15-2016, 08:26 AM.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostThis ^. No news today folks.
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Originally posted by Eastcoast View PostYup. Loeffler just being his usual professional demeanor and politically correct. Being so close to the deadline, I wish Loeffler would actually be reducing the offer to Jacobs day by day. Knock off a hundred grand everyday from now to the deadline, if Jacobs really wants the fight he'd take it. I think he just wants a way out, and saying they can't pay him enough allows him to save face.
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Originally posted by EddieHearn View PostToo bad American boxers over value their services, imagine what it would be like to get someone like Charlo to come out and fight GGG?!?!
They'd be asking for money that simply wasn't there similar to what Jacobs is doing, UFC fighters put on the biggest fights year by year all the while not being greedy like Jacobs, GGG is the star in this one he worked his way to where he was from Kazakhstan fighting all across the world unlike very many of your gifted, silver spooned, molly coddled American athletes (mainly the boxers not MMA fighters) who have everything their own way!
This GGG Vs. Jacobs fight could have happened in December if it wasn't for the greedy, selfish attitude that people like Floyd Mayweather Jr has created in the boxing world I mean what right do these guys have to be so demanding when they barely even have a big social media following ffs guys like Brad Pickett likely has more of a following than Jacobs!!!
But of course lets try and see one of your idiots on here try to spin it in a different direction lol, British boxing stars are way bigger household names than any absolutely ANY of your current American champions does that not say it all?
Will it lose the same amount as a Jacobs/GGG fight would (assuming Jacobs gets same $3 mil), IMO no.
I understand all the reasons GGG fans have cited why they are ok with the offer to BJS. Just please do not exaggerate your projection of how much the fight would make just to fit your argument.
If GGG was as big a star as Red Cyclone/Eddie Hearn opines in this post, there would be no issue generating enough money to cover the purse Jacobs requests.
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostLast what standing? Elite white fighter? Eastern Euro? What?
I love how there's this big eastern euro wave of top fighters, and then one "loses" by a point, and suddenly the wave is all but over, "just one to go." You are so biased bro... even if Ward had won, you'd still be wrong, GGG still wouldn't be the last one left, because Usyk and Lomachenko are still out there at the very, very top level, and Gassiev is still out there who is right below that and just beat the best cruiserweight besides Usyk.
To be fair, I wasn't scoring because it was impossible to score on a ****ty stream, but I actually thought Lebedev won. But that one actually was difficult to score because both were landing bombs on each other.
But see how I'm honest and you're not? You are being a racist d1ck against white fighters, so if I was super tribal and biased like you, I would probably get super defensive and use every possible data point to defend white fighters the way you use every data point to be pro-black fighter. For example since Ward got the official decision, you don't care who really won, you're going to use that data point to death because it fits your narrative, and it's out there to be used.
See I'm not like that. It would serve my narrative arguing against your bs that Gassiev "beat Lebedev wide" like he did on one of the scorecards, but I'm not like you. I'm actually honest. So even though it goes against my argument to say I thought Gassiev lost, I'm still willing to say it.
I don't base what I say off of agendas. I just try to speak the truth, like how Kovalev kicked Ward's ass, dropped him, visibly hurt him in rounds 1, 2, 11, and 12 as well... hey aren't 11 and 12 both rounds Ward needed on every scorecard to win the fight? But he got hurt in both, didn't hurt Kovalev in either, and the punch stats were very even in both so the guy who gets hurt is supposed to lose those rounds? Hmm.... hmmmmmmm.....
So yeah man, you're full of it. Kovalev didn't fall. Ward is the only one who fell, in the 2nd round. Sorry!
But since I'm honest, I'm not going to leave you feeling disappointed. I'm going to go give you hope. See Kovalev may not have fallen, but I know GGG is the one you really want to lose... don't worry, I think it can happen. Probably not against Jacobs, there's only about a 20% chance I think of GGG losing that one, but GGG is 35. Your favorite fighters ducked him so long, they are finally going to get the payoff. The Mayweather formula.
See, real boxing fans hate the Mayweather formula because it ensures no matter who wins, the fight always takes place years too late, and the fight sucks. It steals entertainment from the fans, and true supremacy of competition from the fans, because by the time the ducker fights the ducked, both may not even be the top guys in the division anymore.
But you are not a real boxing fan. You are a racially biased fan. So you don't care about the quality of the fights, you care about the black dude "winning." So even if Mayweather-Pacquiao still hadn't happened, and Mayweather waited until they were both BHop's age, you would be happy. You would say "well yeah, neither Mayweather or Pacquiao were in their prime at 50 years old, but Pacquiao was actually older than Floyd, and this is the only time they fought, so the result counts. Of course I would have preferred they fight in their primes, but clearly the same outcome would have happened."
That's what you are like man. You don't care about the best fights, you just care about the fight happening at the best time for the black guy to win, even if you have to wait until the fighters are 50 years old.
It's pathetic, but I said I wouldn't leave you with negativity, so hey man, it's pathetic, but it's probably going to happen again. GGG is 35, I already see him slowing down, so he will probably """get exposed""" soon when he's 36 or 37, like every offensive fighter slows down at that age.
Will it happen vs prime Jacobs? I doubt it because that's how good GGG is. Even slightly past prime GGG is going to beat most middleweights in the history of boxing. But once he becomes significantly past his prime, and he moves up in weight, there are good odds he'll lose because he doesn't have the style to get old and just hold cheat and potshot, like the fighters you probably worship.
So don't worry, when GGG is 40 years old and loses to Beterbiev (hey there's another white dude yet to "fall") at 175, you'll get to say "I told you so! See I told you he was never any good to begin with, totally hyped up!" Don't worry man. The hater fantasy you've been harboring for years will probably come true eventually. GGG is a real fighter, not like Floyd. He will actually move up and fight the best, not at catchweights like Floyd-Canelo. And don't give me the crap about Floyd moving up x divisions, that was when he was a teen/early 20s growing. GGG moved up in the amateurs at that weight too. Welterweight has always been Floyd's real division and he stayed at 147 his entire prime and never moved up in his 30s, like GGG's age now, to 154 or middleweight to fight the best in their weight class. GGG will! And GGG will actually fight, not hold and cheat. And when age catches up to him and he is no longer the better athlete in the ring, he will probably lose those fights. So don't worry man. You will probably get to say it. Don't worry!
Of course, as a result, GGG will be remembered with much more respect than Floyd, but you probably don't care about that either. You just want to see "black man" and "fake win" together. You don't care if it's real or not, because you think counterfeit bills purchase just as much goods as real bills so long as people don't know they're counterfeit. And just because inside of your bubble of racially biased boxing fan friends they don't know the difference, maybe you think the rest of the world doesn't either, but sorry to say, the rest of the world does know the truth.
Hell, even the rest of the U.S. knows the truth! That's why even polls on U.S. boxing sites showed 80% of fans and media agree Kovalev beat Ward. Only biased fans in denial like you can't admit to the truth. Even RJJ and Max Kellerman, the two biggest Ward fans that exist, admit Kovalev won. Oops. But you're so biased and dishonest, you want to keep pretending.
And that's what you'll have to do with Kovalev. Pretend. Even if the rematch happens, I still don't think Ward beats Kovalev, so you will still have to pretend.
But GGG? You might not have to. He is reaching that age where he can fall off the cliff at any time. GGG-Jacobs should be a great fight.
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Jacobs is likable but I don't rate him highly. What makes him better than Lemieux? Why are people interested in this fight? At least Saunders-Golovkin would be a stylistic challenge. And I don't expect much from Saunders (his last fight was horrible).
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