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  • #21
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
    Who else did Spence fight? His first test was against Algieri. His competition consisted of low level fighters even though the bouts were 10 rounders.



    Trust me, this is no test for Lubin. The kid will pass with flying colors
    Guys like Phil Lo Greco and Chris Van Herdeen. Those were different from his D Level comps. They were a little better.

    He should be fighting someone like Frank Galarza, Chris Pearson, Oscar Molina, Wilky Camfort. Hell, even John Jackson or Jorge Cota first.

    I like him, see big things for him in the future.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by MasterPlan View Post
      Guys like Phil Lo Greco and Chris Van Herdeen. Those were different from his D Level comps. They were a little better.
      Phil Lo Greco had fought once in two years prior to fighting Spence. And even then it was on a few days notice. Lo Greco was a "D" rated opponent. I've never even heard of Van Herdeen before he fought Spence and I'm pretty sure you haven't either.

      He should be fighting someone like Frank Galarza, Chris Pearson, Oscar Molina, Wilky Camfort. Hell, even John Jackson or Jorge Cota first
      Those fights are a waste of time. I'm not even sure Vanes can beat Molina, Jackson or Frank Galarza.

      Why are you so big on Vanes? He was clearly beat by the weaker Charlo and was in a very close fight with Ishe Smith. Vanes just isn't that good. Hell, he was almost beat by Willie Nelson

      Vanes is a C class JMW and Lubin will stop him
      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 12-15-2016, 01:03 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
        Phil Lo Greco had fought once in two years prior to fighting Spence. And even then it was on a few days notice. Lo Greco was a "D" rated opponent. I've never even heard of Van Herdeen before he fought Spence and I'm pretty sure you haven't either.



        Those fights are a waste of time. I'm not even sure Vanes can beat Molina, Jackson or Frank Galarza.

        Why are you so big on Vanes? He was clearly beat by the weaker Charlo and was in a very close fight with Ishe Smith. Vanes just isn't that good. Hell, he was almost beat by Willie Nelson

        Vanes is a C class Middleweight and Lubin will stop him
        Greco and Herdeen are gate keepers. Better than his previous fights. And **** you say he mist likely beats all those other guys, he needs to fight guys with pulses.

        Those other guys before are the fighters all the prospects fight in their like first 12-15 fights before they go on to bigger and better things. That Orlando Lora guy Lubin fought, he also fought both Charlos, J-Roc, Tony Harrison, ect.

        I'm not big on Vanes, I'm saying he's no push over. Also, that fight with Ishe was not close. He clearly beat him ane dropped him like 3 times if I remember correctly.

        Vanes is easily a B class fighter below the Charlos, Lara, Andrade. Hell, I'm not too sure J-Roc beats Vanes.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MasterPlan View Post
          Greco and Herdeen are gate keepers. Better than his previous fights. And **** you say he mist likely beats all those other guys, he needs to fight guys with pulses.

          Those other guys before are the fighters all the prospects fight in their like first 12-15 fights before they go on to bigger and better things. That Orlando Lora guy Lubin fought, he also fought both Charlos, J-Roc, Tony Harrison, ect.

          I'm not big on Vanes, I'm saying he's no push over. Also, that fight with Ishe was not close. He clearly beat him ane dropped him like 3 times if I remember correctly.

          Vanes is easily a B class fighter below the Charlos, Lara, Andrade. Hell, I'm not too sure J-Roc beats Vanes.
          Vanes never dropped Ishe Smith

          This thread will be good to bump when the fight happens.... And, you know, Lubin stops him. Talk to you then

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
            Vanes never dropped Ishe Smith

            This thread will be good to bump when the fight happens.... And, you know, Lubin stops him. Talk to you then
            He did, you may be thinking of the Willie Nelson fight. There was no knock downs in that one.

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            • #26
              Without a doubt, Lubin stops Vanes

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                Wait is Bute getting an eliminator? Why?
                When I saw that I just shook my head.,,Adonis defends against a washed up can

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