Golovkin is not P4P top 5

[LoadedWraps]

Quality over quantity, bro.

What he did to one of the most elite blue chip prospects in and around the weight class (Gary Russell Jr.), and the most feared knockout artist in and around the weight class (Walters), was nothing short of phenomenal.

Loma is unquestionably in the conversation. The guy has did more in just 8 (EIGHT!!) career fights than 95% of aspiring professional boxers will do in entire careers.

Quality over quantity for you maybe, that's not my criteria - I need both among other things to give you a high p4p ranking.

[LoadedWraps]

p4p lists are inherently subjective. you're handicapping guys based on their size and ranking them in order based on accomplishments and ability, and you have to make conclusions based on incomplete evidence. i think we've got a better idea at this point of what golovkin has or what he can be in his next fihgt. with lomachenko i see constant improvement. i think he's already the more able fighter at present, and i see him improving in his next fight. golovkin's taken punches for a living for a long time now and he's likely as good as he'll ever be, so we are assuming less about how good he is than we are with lomachenko.

that said, lomachenko's W over walters isbetter than anything golovkin has done. walters was a good fighter wtth power who proved that he could beat an aging great in donaire. lomacheko was able to so thoroughly outclass him that i've got him ranked higher on my list. he was also totally dominant against rocky martinez, who was an ok fighter and certaily no less than the dominic wade's of the world.


i think lomachenko might be the best fighter on the planet, actually. the best. i just don't have enough to go on to say that with certainty and confidence. i'm fairly confident that he'd box circles around golovkin if they were the fight size. there'd be a puncher's chance got golovkin, but i think that lomachenko's tools would totally offset his only glaring weakness in the match on paper [punching power in proportion to golovkin, arguably the biggest p4p hitter in boxing.]
in a year or so i think it's goign to be obvious who the bst fighter on the planet is, and it will be a litle ukranian kid named vasyl

Yea I agree with most of what you are saying except for the part of this being GGG's ceiling, but I still maintain my position. I think you are right about Lomachenko but still won't rank him too highly because I want to see more fights, I am fair with the way I rank fighters and won't make exceptions even if I feel the guy is spectacular. He will still put in the work everyone else on the list did imo before he earns the recognition. Fortunately for both of us, as you say, p4p lists are subjective.