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  • OnePunch
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    #91
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    The money? He's turning down $10 mil for a fight at the full 160. Imagine how much he'd want for 157
    he isnt "turning down" anything genius. They are negotiating.

    What kind of chump would accept someones first offer for a fight a year away?
    Last edited by OnePunch; 12-12-2016, 09:54 PM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      The WBO is the only org that doesn't allow you to hold belts in two different weight classes and GGG doesn't have that belt. I think the WBC gave GGG a lot of leeway by allowing him to keep delaying his mandatory shot and taking step aside money. Per their rules they could've removed him from the mando position and moved the next guy up. The WBA has been accommodating also. Allowed him to go more than 18 months without calling the mando. Ruled in favor of GGG on the 75/25 split. Gave Loeffler a 2 week extension that turned into a month until their hands were forced to make a decision. The IBF has treated him no different than they treat all their champions. The orgs have worked with GGG.

      you know damn well that it was Cotto and Canelo that the WBC was giving the leeway to. Had the WBC said no, then GGG would never have stepped aside and caused himself to be stripped.

      You know better

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        #93
        Originally posted by kafkod
        One thing I can't figure out ... why didn't Oscar offer GGG $10million and 160 when Canelo was the WBC champion and GGG was his mandatory, instead of vacating and handing over that title, without making any offers at all?

        Do you think maybe he was scared Golovkin might accept it?
        Because he would've turned that down as well. He was guaranteed a 45% split which would've been higher than $10 mil. GGG himself has said he thinks the split should be 50/50. He's not guaranteed the fight and he's still turning down double the amount of money he's ever made and will never come close to making again. His average purse is around $2mil. He'd have to fight 5 times to make what Canelo offered. And the recognition he'd gain from beating Canelo is worth more than $10mil. That's really the part I don't understand. Let's be honest. I know you're a GGG fan but you gotta be honest, $10 mil is a lot of money. Especially when he stands to gain so much more than money. I just don't understand how he can turn down this fight over money. That $10 mil is an investment in a bigger scheme. Beat Canelo and you're the man. The PPV star. The one offering other fighters $10 mil while you make $30 mil with the PPV upside. It's just confusing to me why he would turn down that much money in a fight he should win and with so much to gain. It's crazy and I know deep down you know it's crazy too. All of GGG fans know deep down that he should take that offer

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          #94
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          you know damn well that it was Cotto and Canelo that the WBC was giving the leeway to. Had the WBC said no, then GGG would never have stepped aside and caused himself to be stripped.

          You know better
          And another thing. He was champion of another organization and the WBC gave him an eliminator fight so he could become the mandatory. It's rare that happens. When you consider all the facts the "poor GGG" narrative just isn't true.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            Because he would've turned that down as well. He was guaranteed a 45% split which would've been higher than $10 mil. GGG himself has said he thinks the split should be 50/50. He's not guaranteed the fight and he's still turning down double the amount of money he's ever made and will never come close to making again. His average purse is around $2mil. He'd have to fight 5 times to make what Canelo offered. And the recognition he'd gain from beating Canelo is worth more than $10mil. That's really the part I don't understand. Let's be honest. I know you're a GGG fan but you gotta be honest, $10 mil is a lot of money. Especially when he stands to gain so much more than money. I just don't understand how he can turn down this fight over money. That $10 mil is an investment in a bigger scheme. Beat Canelo and you're the man. The PPV star. The one offering other fighters $10 mil while you make $30 mil with the PPV upside. It's just confusing to me why he would turn down that much money in a fight he should win and with so much to gain. It's crazy and I know deep down you know it's crazy too. All of GGG fans know deep down that he should take that offer
            Because it's insulting, dumbfcuk. Khan gets upside and not the guy that's a much better draw, has 3 Mw belts, p4p top 5 and took Canelos belt and balls.

            He wasn't guaranteed 45%, scoundrel. Was Guerrero guaranteed 45% vs Floyd?

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              #96
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Because it's insulting, dumbfcuk. Khan gets upside and not the guy that's a much better draw, has 3 Mw belts, p4p top 5 and took Canelos belt and balls.

              He wasn't guaranteed 45%, scoundrel. Was Guerrero guaranteed 45% vs Floyd?
              PPV upside was offered.

              And Alvarez (48-1-1, 34 knockouts) and De La Hoya revealed in a post-fight news conference early Sunday that an offer of at least $10 million with an unspecified pay-per-view bonus has been presented to Golovkin’s team for a September 2017 bout.


              Did Canelo or GGG petition the WBC to change the split?

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                #97
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                And another thing. He was champion of another organization and the WBC gave him an eliminator fight so he could become the mandatory. It's rare that happens. When you consider all the facts the "poor GGG" narrative just isn't true.
                dont get that twisted. They did that so they could go forward with Martinez-Cotto without getting sued by Rubio over the Chavez drug test. Making the Rubio-GGG winner the mando to the Martinez-Cotto winner was serving the WBC's interests first.

                And nobody is saying "poor GGG". What we are saying is that the sanctioning bodies wont allow GGG to go 2 or 3 years without doing mando like the WBC did with Floyd. We are simply stating a fact.

                You also mentioned that the WBA let him go 18 months without a mando. Maybe you didnt know this, but a "super" champ, which GGG is, only has to do a mando once every 18 months. so again its not like they are giving him any leeway here.....

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by OnePunch
                  he isnt "turning down" anything genius. They are negotiating.

                  What kind of chump would accept someones first offer for a fight a year away?
                  Sergey Kovalev.

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                    #99
                    Unspecified as in none?

                    http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-flat-fee-golovkin-face-canelo-no-money-split--108479

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by OnePunch
                      dont get that twisted. They did that so they could go forward with Martinez-Cotto without getting sued by Rubio over the Chavez drug test. Making the Rubio-GGG winner the mando to the Martinez-Cotto winner was serving the WBC's interests first.

                      And nobody is saying "poor GGG". What we are saying is that the sanctioning bodies wont allow GGG to go 2 or 3 years without doing mando like the WBC did with Floyd. We are simply stating a fact.

                      You also mentioned that the WBA let him go 18 months without a mando. Maybe you didnt know this, but a "super" champ, which GGG is, only has to do a mando once every 18 months. so again its not like they are giving him any leeway here.....
                      Nobody is suggesting he goes 2-3 years without doing a mando. You bring up Floyd's situation, which was an special circumstances due to his popularity and money he generated, and expect the sanctioning orgs to treat GGG the same as Floyd? Are know you GGG fans are delusional but come on. I just gave you scenarios where the orgs have been favorable to GGG which I think they would do the same to any fighter that's on his level. But you think he should get the same treatment as Floyd. Wow!!

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