Haymon or Showtime lying with their fighters fight night weight.

[_Maxi]

oh without a doubt it would be strange weights for the morning of, let alone the night of the fight. The question is, why lie? It's clearly premeditated, but what's the end game?

They are not doing VADA testing. With VADA maybe it's harder to cut 20 pounds. And they want to protect their fighters by not letting anyone know that they are cutting 20 pounds and not doing VADA testing.

Just saying, it could be one of the reasons.

[Motorcity Cobra]

And Molina lied about his 7 day weigh in to the WBC. He reported 145 to the WBC a week out. Weighed 144 at weigh in and weighed 143.5 the second weigh in. Charlo and J-Rock made weight but you're *****in about UNOFFICIAL WEIGH-INS?

Those weights are most likely from the second day weigh-in from the morning. You really think he gained 20lbs in a couple hours and 30lbs in 24 hours? That's not healthy and it would've showed in his performance

[SCEN3RY]

They are not doing VADA testing. With VADA maybe it's harder to cut 20 pounds. And they want to protect their fighters by not letting anyone know that they are cutting 20 pounds and not doing VADA testing.

Just saying, it could be one of the reasons.

yeah, I don't think that's what it is, bro. If I had to venture a guess...they did it for the viewers (who don't think about drug testing) - to make viewers believe these are evenly matched fights between evenly sized guys; 'even the taller guy that looks bigger in Charlo actually weighs less than the shorter guy.' It sounds like some dumb **** Richard Schaefer came up with to "revolutionize" boxing. I'm just disappointed in Showtime, really.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Then how come they never weigh cotton or canelo at hbo

cause they dont have to get weigh in lol, you can refuse it. Its not an obligation.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

And Molina lied about his 7 day weigh in to the WBC. He reported 145 to the WBC a week out. Weighed 144 at weigh in and weighed 143.5 the second weigh in. Charlo and J-Rock made weight but you're *****in about UNOFFICIAL WEIGH-INS?

Those weights are most likely from the second day weigh-in from the morning. You really think he gained 20lbs in a couple hours and 30lbs in 24 hours? That's not healthy and it would've showed in his performance

why did he lie? he could have really been 143.5 and ate something and boom he blew back up, not out of the realm of possibility.

[Motorcity Cobra]

why did he lie? he could have really been 143.5 and ate something and boom he blew back up, not out of the realm of possibility.

At the 7 day weigh-in he reported he was 145lbs. A week later at the weigh in he was 144. The second weigh in he was 143.5. I can't believe he was only 145 a week out and weighed 144 at the weigh-in. Those WBC 30, 14, 7 day weigh-ins are self reported according to the WBC. If it's a big fight they'll bring in a doctor and get on the scale for a photo op. Like they did for the Brook/GGG fight

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

At the 7 day weigh-in he reported he was 145lbs. A week later at the weigh in he was 144. The second weigh in he was 143.5. I can't believe he was only 145 a week out and weighed 144 at the weigh-in. Those WBC 30, 14, 7 day weigh-ins are self reported according to the WBC. If it's a big fight they'll bring in a doctor and get on the scale for a photo op. Like they did for the Brook/GGG fight

yeah I hear ya, but its not out of the realm of possibility that he was on point and something happened. im sure everyone lies when they report to wbc cause like you say their not an official their its just the honor system.

[_Maxi]

And Molina lied about his 7 day weigh in to the WBC. He reported 145 to the WBC a week out. Weighed 144 at weigh in and weighed 143.5 the second weigh in. Charlo and J-Rock made weight but you're *****in about UNOFFICIAL WEIGH-INS?

Those weights are most likely from the second day weigh-in from the morning. You really think he gained 20lbs in a couple hours and 30lbs in 24 hours? That's not healthy and it would've showed in his performance

Two wrongs make a right? If what you say is true then yes Molina did some shit.

However what you say about those weights being the weights of the next morning, it's not truth. If you take a look at the IBF second day weigh ins, by the next morning the fighters have already filled 10 pounds, EVERYTIME. They are all on the 10 pounds limit by next morning. So even if that was the case, they should still be close to 164. As you can see, I already thought about that and dismissed it. You're not that smart buddy.

[hhs661]

Did they make the contractual weight? Or am I missing something here

[Kigali]

Then how come they never weigh cotton or canelo at hbo

Shhhhhhhh

Don't mention HBO or Top Rank