Who hits harder: Wilder or Anthony Joshua?

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  • 1hourRun
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    #41
    Originally posted by Kigali
    Very well said
    Its crazy bruh, Deontay is almost killing these guys with just one shot and they still say Juiceua hits harder.

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #42
      Joshua has heavier hands while wilder gets more leverage on those punches.

      Either way, they are both HWs capable of knocking out anybody with one proper shot.

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #43
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        Tyson Fury hitting harder than Joshua is just too ****** to believe.
        Yup my thoughts exactly

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          #44
          I'd say AJ is. His superior technique allows him to maximize the effect of his offense.

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            #45
            Joshua: Anthony Joshua's defeated victims tell Sky Sports about his powerful punch

            The fallen 16 warn AJ is more than just power


            By James Dielhenn

            Last Updated: 11/04/16 11:55am



            Getting thumped in the face by Anthony Joshua would be, for most of us, the stuff of nightmares. There are 16 men who have felt that thunderous force, and some have shared their pain and their stories with Sky Sports.

            One of those victims had their career ended by a damaging Joshua punch, another rates him above two heavyweight world champions that he has also boxed. Most recently, Charles Martin cut a disconsolate figure in his dressing room, a plaster concealing a bloodied face, as he tried to describe his knockout loss.

            What they all have in common is the brutal conclusions to their fights against Joshua - yet they tell different horror stories about the enormity of the monster that won Martin's IBF heavyweight title on Saturday night.



            "I got a broken eye socket," said Matt Legg, who was crushed inside a round by a Joshua uppercut at Wembley Stadium two years ago and still hasn't returned.




            "When I tried to get up I couldn't even see. I had three months of nerve damage in the side of my face. For two months I had no feeling, it was numb.

            "He hits you through your gloves, even when you've got your hands up protecting your head," Legg said. "The power of his punches goes through your gloves, there's nowhere to hide.

            "I fought James Toney when he was 45 and you could comfortably block his punches - when you block Anthony's they go through your gloves and still hurt you, so you have to get out of the way."

            "The power of his punches goes through your gloves, there's nowhere to hide."

            Matt Legg


            Paul Butlin, Joshua's second opponent, had boxed Dereck Chisora, Johnathon Banks and Lucas Browne but they hadn't prepared him for the Olympian's power. "I've been in with the biggest lads in Europe," Butlin said. "But Joshua's power is horrible - if he hits you, you're gone, simple as that. It's sickening.

            "The first jab he hit me with, I went back to the corner shaking my head. He caught me with an overhand right that gave me nine stitches."





            But what if the big right hand doesn't land? In the land of the giants, plenty of heavyweight contenders have faltered when their primary weapon is deflected off target. Joshua's punch power has taken him past 15 opponents but critics insist he is just an Ancient Greek sculpture adorned with a pair of gloves.

            Terrifyingly, the victims that have tasted Joshua's knockout punches shake their head when asked if he is merely a KO merchant.



            The Joshua uppercut that broke Matt Legg's eye socket and caused nerve damage


            The Joshua uppercut that broke Matt Legg's eye socket and caused nerve damage

            "The funny thing is that it's not so much about power - Joshua is very accurate," said Matt Skelton, victim No 7. "He hits hard, don't get me wrong, but when it's combined with accuracy that's hard to go against, isn't it? You can have a big, hard punch but if it's not timed correctly then it takes the sting out."

            Skelton, a veteran of fights with Kubrat Pulev, Ruslan Chagaev plus kickboxing events in Tokyo stadiums, was shocked to discover that Joshua was not a pampered prima donna between the ropes. "I got the impression that you can't upset him," Skelton said. "If you want to mix it up with him, get down and dirty, he'd bring the same back. In my eyes that's a good thing.



            Matt Skelton tried to brawl but soon realised Joshua couldn't be bullied




            Matt Skelton tried to brawl but soon realised Joshua couldn't be bullied

            "Since then, I've sparred with him on many occasions. We've had proper toe-to-toe hard sparring. I could tell by his training ethic that he was good. We'd spar, then when a lot of heavyweights go for a shower, he'd go back onto the bags to practice."

            I got the impression that you can't upset him. If you want to mix it up with him, get down and dirty, he'd bring the same back.

            Matt Skelton

            Other opponents wince at the memory of the colossal Joshua hurtling towards them quicker than a man of his immaculate physique ought to be moving. "A lot of guys his size don't move as well as Joshua," said Jason Gavern, the 11th victim.

            "He's 6ft 6in, 260lbs and he's dancing around, throwing double-jabs and triple left hooks - how is this guy doing this? For his size, he's very athletic. He grew two feet after the weigh-in, he was huge. In the middle of the ring I thought 'oh my gosh'. I just tried to fight. He knocked me down three times but I kept getting up. The last punch I didn't remember until I saw it after the fight."

            Joshua wouldn't be the first great heavyweight to possess unlikely fast-twitch muscle movements. Legg, the Wembley opponent, insists Joshua is an evolved version of an iconic legend. "I look at him like a tall Mike Tyson," he said.

            "He's fast - people underestimate his speed. When he lets combinations go, he's super-fast for 18st. It's amazing how fast his hands are. To walk out onto the Wembley pitch was like walking into the Coliseum as a Gladiator, especially when you're in with the new Tyson."


            Jason Gavern was shocked by the speed behind Joshua's punches

            The warning signs were there from the first bell of the first fight against Emanuele Leo in October 2013. Twelve knockouts later, there remained claimants saying Joshua was merely a product of kind match-making.

            "I'm going to fight with my hands down - he don't have no power," Kevin Johnson vowed before becoming the unlucky No 13th victim. "I don't need my hands up, he doesn't have no power to hurt me." In 36 fights, the American hadn't been stopped but stumbled into the second round before Joshua crushed him.


            Kevin Johnson had not been stopped until he faced Joshua

            Kevin Johnson had not been stopped until he faced Joshua

            Finally, Joshua would be matched against a fellow undefeated, young contender who enjoyed a height advantage. Gary Cornish believed experience would help him.

            "I've felt David Price too and they said his punch was the biggest out there," Cornish said beforehand. "I've sparred top heavyweights, world class. Guys like Tyson Fury and Kubrat Pulev taking it to me - so I've felt power." Perhaps Joshua's power is different, a gift stirred up within the Olympic gold medal winner that turns chiselled men into helpless boys. Cornish lasted 90 seconds.


            Deontay Wilder and Joshua are the same - rangy, and know how to use distance. They both hit hard but Wilder didn't knock me out.

            Jason Gavern

            Joshua is already capable of adding further world titles according to the victims that have also boxed WBC champion Deontay Wilder and WBA champion Lucas Browne.

            "Deontay Wilder and Joshua are the same - rangy, and know how to use distance," said Gavern. "If these guys fight, it would be a blockbuster. They both hit hard but Wilder didn't knock me out. Joshua's the future of the heavyweight division." He is on a "different planet" to WBA champion Lucas Browne, according to mutual opponent Butlin.

            A trail of 16 broken bodies will pieced themselves together sufficiently to watch Joshua, the man who dismantled them, earn his biggest scalp to date against Martin. Having felt the world's most powerful punch, the fallen 16 are forever intertwined with Joshua's legacy and fellow world champions Tyson Fury or Wilder will be wary of becoming the 17th member to the exclusive club.



            My Take........


            Wilder has to try much harder to knock his opponents out. He has a much more difficult time. Joshua can just land a numbing jab and rattle someones forward progression ,Wilder cant. Joshuas style of punching is digging in to his opponents if they don't go down from straight punches and punches through them, even has a few k.o's with opponents just blocking them.

            I view him as a cross between Mike Tyson and Foreman. speed /power and accuracy all equate to power and hitting hard, he has this over wilder this should be evident in watching full fights. What he has that the heavy handers like foreman didn't is great timing, hes a master at distance and knows when to unload this makes the punch perfect and doesn't take away from the power. Now ppl are going to cry and so on and so on, I watched boxing a LONG time, but Joshua /M. Tyson and Wlad Klitchko are in a league all their own in this category they are the 3 elite of hitting HARD ,even the mighty wilder doesn't measure up to them and he hits HARD no doubt.

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            • Monchy88
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              #46
              I vote for Joshua. That guy's got two cannons. Wilder is more like a wild swinger, living up to his last name I guess.

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              • DreamerUSA
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                #47
                What difference does it make? If either guy catches you flush, its sleepy time.

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                • BrometheusBob.
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                  #48
                  I'm tempted to say Wilder but it's hard to differentiate really until they both improve their quality of opposition. Both have incredible firepower though.

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                  • Kigali
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by 1hourRun
                    Its crazy bruh, Deontay is almost killing these guys with just one shot and they still say Juiceua hits harder.
                    It's anti-US bias that has them blind...many of them are American

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                    • Kigali
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Monchy88
                      I vote for Joshua. That guy's got two cannons. Wilder is more like a wild swinger, living up to his last name I guess.
                      Joshua is more lumbering.

                      Wilder has speed and stamina.

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