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  • #31
    Originally posted by mlac View Post
    agreed mate, he looked very very flat and tired, he was saying before the fight that he was exhausted and needed a long break.
    I said month's ago that all this las vegas > nz, travelling, camps and fighting 5-6 times a year is too much for a prospect.

    There is keeping your fighter busy.. and there is rushing him...

    Hopefully top rank get Parker settled in the U.S and pair him with JDJ or even sanchez lol...the KB road has come to an end i feel..
    Yeah I'm thinking the relationship with KB has run its course too. KB has his redemption, he got that title that alluded him in the Tua-Lewis fight.

    In fact, there was a lot of learnings from that fight that went into tonight. Almost too much - Parker looked like he only wanted to box from the outside, it was a very narrow minded plan.

    It pains me to say it, but he needs to fight in the states now - I agree, he can't keep coming back to NZ.

    I totally agree with your other post - said to my wife at about round 9 - "where the **** is the uppercuts?" It was sitting there waiting for him the whole fight but he was content to keep sticking that jab out.

    Nonetheless, it'll be interesting to see how many more people pipe up and say Ruiz won that fight - he simply didn't win enough rounds. Parker fought an average fight, Ruiz fought worse, and the result is right.

    Ruiz simply couldn't hit him - and you can't win a fight like that.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mlac View Post
      Doubt it, JP has a great chin and ruiz doesnt have enough power. Ruiz was on the front foot the whole fight, JP cannot box on the backfoot agaisnt pressure fighters like takam and ruiz, He has a fantastic uppercut and has actually a good inside game...he did not throw 1 uppercut the entire night...
      Yeah if we look back at some of Parker's early career fights he got into absolute wars with guys on the inside. He gets hit but he hits bloody hard too.

      With that said, I don't think going on the inside would be the best option, just don't back down. Stand in the middle of the ring and don't back up when Ruiz steps in. Throw punches in the mid range and then tie him up inside.

      This backfoot game has never suited Parker and never will. He doesn't even have a 6'4 reach.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
        Ruiz has enough power to KO anyone. Also when you Fight on the inside you'll get hit by punches you dont really see coming. Ruiz fast hands hits the target way more often. Parker had a lot of respect for Ruiz hand speed and did not fancy any inside fighting for a reason.
        Yeah obviously don't fight Ruiz right on the inside, but at least don't act like you're Larry Holmes when you're not.

        Use your power to earn Ruiz' respect. Throw the right hand more than twice in the whole fight. Should have been more straight right hands and overhands from Parker.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SMASHEMBRO View Post
          Awesome. Watch out Joshua and wilder here comes a real champion. A guy that can actually take a punch and give it!!
          Kevin Barry's done a extraordinary job on this young man in the past couple of years!
          Literally the only person on this entire thread to think that...

          He was slow, fought the wrong gameplan and joshua would've chinged him in 4 if he was against the parker that turned up in this fight.

          Get them oceanic rose tinted spectacles off.. and learn about levels..cos parker showed tonight he can only find higher ones without Barry.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
            Ruiz would've KO'd Parker had he fought on the inside. Parker looked so uncomfortable when they got close and you coult tell Parker did not like that kind of fight at all. Ruiz fast hands wins everytime on the inside.
            That's the thing - Ruiz couldn't get inside often enough. It's pretty ridiculous to say "he would have KO'd him had he fought on the inside", that's exactly what didn't happen because he couldn't get through Parker's jab with frequency.

            That's like saying I'd be rich if I won the lottery - no ****.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
              Literally the only person on this entire thread to think that...

              He was slow, fought the wrong gameplan and joshua would've chinged him in 4 if he was against the parker that turned up in this fight.

              Get them oceanic rose tinted spectacles off.. and learn about levels..cos parker showed tonight he can only find higher ones without Barry.
              I'm partially with you, but..who's AJ fought again?

              Parker effectively has 2 wins against good fighters. AJ has 0.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
                Literally the only person on this entire thread to think that...

                He was slow, fought the wrong gameplan and joshua would've chinged him in 4 if he was against the parker that turned up in this fight.

                Get them oceanic rose tinted spectacles off.. and learn about levels..cos parker showed tonight he can only find higher ones without Barry.
                To be fair Parker does adopt a different game plan against the taller fights and would likely do so against Hughie and Joshua, and he seems much more comfortable doing it.

                But yeah, please leave Kevin Barry.

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                • #38
                  Not the best fight. Parker was a let down again, even though he got the decision. Ruiz could of won that if he wasn't such a fat slob. Personally think ruiz could loose 3/4 stones and campaign at cruiser. Anyone who says they can't get ripped it's just chatting bs. He's to small and way to fat to be campaigning at hw.

                  I'd be extremely shocked if they chase a joshua fight after that. I think he gets a vicious beat down from joshua for every round whilst it lasts. Prob the same from wilder. Parker clearly tires down the stretch to, he's done the same for the past few fights that have gone the 12. I don't think he actually hits that hard either.

                  Hopefully this doesn't set the tone for tonight. Looking forward to some ko's later lol.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by keith_head View Post
                    Yeah if we look back at some of Parker's early career fights he got into absolute wars with guys on the inside. He gets hit but he hits bloody hard too.

                    With that said, I don't think going on the inside would be the best option, just don't back down. Stand in the middle of the ring and don't back up when Ruiz steps in. Throw punches in the mid range and then tie him up inside.

                    This backfoot game has never suited Parker and never will. He doesn't even have a 6'4 reach.
                    Spot on. Not only can he not box on the backfoot, he looks totally clueless and unnatural doing it.
                    You simply cannot have such a one dimensional gameplan agaisnt Elite fighters, thankfully for us JP fans, Ruiz is not elite and he was able to win the fight simply with the Jab.

                    He can't fight solely on the inside either, but goddamn mix it up on the inside and adapt as the fight goes on. JP like AJ are both world champion's now, but both are learning on the job.

                    The question is, what is better for your development? Fighting and KO'ing guys that have little - to zero intention of fighting back or sticking him in with tough pressure fighters and looking very shaky, and scraping by...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post
                      I'm partially with you, but..who's AJ fought again?

                      Parker effectively has 2 wins against good fighters. AJ has 0.
                      Aj has zero head movement..and the footwork of someone in concrete shoes. He's also foight bums. but...he is extremely good at walking people down at will.

                      Alot of people here say JP has the same power..i dont think he does. If he goes against AJ with the same backfoot tactics as this fight and gets buzzed..its goodnight vienna.

                      Tactics against aj should be what should have been done tonight..going forward not back. If he wants to keep that belt he needs a new trainer otherwise someone who has the knowledge is gonna fancy his bauble belt and take it off him.

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