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  • #41
    Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
    You people would be more believable if you also criticize the fighters who are not willing to fight him. What is he supposed to do, point a gun on these peoples' heads to make them fight him? When Thurman, for example, was fighting cab drivers, everyone said he is being ducked. People didn't blame him, they blame guys like Maidana, etc.

    I have little interest in the MW division and everything above. In general, fans hate ducks. Why are they being loved when it comes to this Golovkin guy? It doesn't make any sense.
    What did Michael Moorer do when he was ducked? He moved up like a man.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
      You people would be more believable if you also criticize the fighters who are not willing to fight him. What is he supposed to do, point a gun on these peoples' heads to make them fight him? When Thurman, for example, was fighting cab drivers, everyone said he is being ducked. People didn't blame him, they blame guys like Maidana, etc.

      I have little interest in the MW division and everything above. In general, fans hate ducks. Why are they being loved when it comes to this Golovkin guy? It doesn't make any sense.
      So is he immune to criticism? he and his team play a part in fights falling through...it goes both ways when negotiating fights and finding opponents.

      Thurman wasnt being hyped as p4p, the best in his division, without ever proving it....kids in his 20s and is taking more risks than GGG...he already beat Porter...OTHER former champions like Guerrero, Quintana, Collazo,Julio Diaz and Jan Zaveck

      he has less fights than GGG and is 7 years younger yet has beaten more current and former champs...undefeated and nowhere near anyones p4p lists

      thurman will be unifying, if he wins, in the ring vs an undefeated 2 division champion in his prime...you know...something GGG knows nothing about...his belts are gift wrapped and he doesnt have to fight for them.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
        What did Michael Moorer do when he was ducked? He moved up like a man.
        what did aaron pryor do when he was ducked at 135...he moved up and got a title shot

        what did Mike McCallum do when he could get fights with the fab 4? moved up to 160 and fought guys like Toney, Kalambay, searched for better opposition

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        • #44
          Originally posted by oscar9992 View Post
          You can't call a fighter who is willing to fight everyone in his division as paper champ... BJS is a true paper champ.
          anybody can say their willing, we dont know what goes on during opponent approval, negotiations etc.....hell BJS has wins over 2 current top ten middleweights....GGG has beaten only 1....hell at least BJS won his title in the ring.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            I'LL move on when they stop trashing fighters who took more risks and make excuses for his slack resume..... they dont like and pumping up an unproven, albeit good fighter.....guess it wont stop..cant stop...bad boy baby.....I will stop when he actually fights an elite fighter.....when will that be?
            Grrrrrrrr GGG I hate you whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whaaaaaaa you bastard.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              bro..this is a message board...this is for fun bro...Its funny watching them dig for a logical response. Its all emotional because they know deep down inside that im right...i love this forum!!!!

              do I seem upset? I asked an honest question, gave my opinion and used facts and stats.....you have to be a real weak mfer to get emotional over sports lol
              I can't tell if you're upset. I can only go by how many threads and posts I see dedicated to one person (yes you do have others, but there is a significant amount). What you said wasn't all facts so don't get it twisted, even reading what you've been saying up till now. It's whatever though. You do you. I just get irritated seeing so many threads about GGG, especially when it's **** that's been said multiple times. Keep it in threads already made. I want to see what else is going on without having to scroll past needless threads. And that goes for both sides.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                1) he is suppose to be top 3-4 pound for pound and has 0 wins over elite opposition

                2)he is the only fighter in the top ten p4p who has NOT A) unified and fought for all his belts B) defeated an elite opponent C) won a title in more than 1 division

                3) 2 out of 3 of his belts he never fought for....PAPER CHAMP

                4) Guys that get crapped on this site have won more titles and defeated more champion....taken more risks like amir khan, danny garcia, adrien broner, hell guys in their 20s have a better resume than this guy

                thoughts? commments?

                this is gonna be good
                Guys like Broner, Khan and Garcia fight 4 or 5 softies in a row and then finally fight somebody good and these are your big risk takers? GGG was there ready and willing to fight for those 2 belts. Because the belt holder gave him their title rather than fight for it how do you somehow make that his fault? If Jacobs hands over his title without a fight you will blame GGG for that because you are an unreasonable GGG hater or you wouldn't start so many threads hating on him. GGG fights the best guys who agree to fight him. He can't make guys fight him. If those two champions who gave him their belts without out a fight had fought him instead he would have their names on his resume. He recently KOed a reigning middleweight champion. How many reigning 147 pound champs have Khan or Garcia defeated? I don't start threads trashing boxers like you are doing. I will come to the defense of a good champion who is being unfairly trashed. Hagler, Monzon, Pryor,Bob Foster, Archie Moore and many other all time greats only won titles in one weight class so why is GGG required to do more? He is 34 years old and still makes 160 with ease so why do you demand he fight above his proper weight? I think it's because you know no middleweight can beat him and you pray a bigger boxer can.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  1) he is suppose to be top 3-4 pound for pound and has 0 wins over elite opposition

                  2)he is the only fighter in the top ten p4p who has NOT A) unified and fought for all his belts B) defeated an elite opponent C) won a title in more than 1 division

                  3) 2 out of 3 of his belts he never fought for....PAPER CHAMP

                  4) Guys that get crapped on this site have won more titles and defeated more champion....taken more risks like amir khan, danny garcia, adrien broner, hell guys in their 20s have a better resume than this guy

                  thoughts? commments?

                  this is gonna be good
                  My comment is that you should seek help.

                  Stop with these threads all the time. Give it a rest you sad nutter.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    So is he immune to criticism? he and his team play a part in fights falling through...it goes both ways when negotiating fights and finding opponents.

                    Thurman wasnt being hyped as p4p, the best in his division, without ever proving it....kids in his 20s and is taking more risks than GGG...he already beat Porter...OTHER former champions like Guerrero, Quintana, Collazo,Julio Diaz and Jan Zaveck

                    he has less fights than GGG and is 7 years younger yet has beaten more current and former champs...undefeated and nowhere near anyones p4p lists

                    thurman will be unifying, if he wins, in the ring vs an undefeated 2 division champion in his prime...you know...something GGG knows nothing about...his belts are gift wrapped and he doesnt have to fight for them.
                    You are free to trash GGG to your heart's content and nobody can stop you. You can be as unfair and unreasonable as you want. You are so angry at GGG for being highly regarded and highly ranked but how is that his fault? If Ring, Boxing Scene, HBO, ESPN and Boxrec all rate him high on their PFP list how is that his fault. He gets hype because he kicks ass and you just can't stand it. He got off to a very late start as a pro so it's not fair to compare him with Thurman who turned pro at a much younger age. You again blame him for winning two belts without fighting for them instead of blaming the champions who gave him those belts without fighting for them. You are about as unreasonable and unfair as it is possible to be. Your so called facts are just a pack of lies.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      So is he immune to criticism? he and his team play a part in fights falling through...it goes both ways when negotiating fights and finding opponents.

                      Thurman wasnt being hyped as p4p, the best in his division, without ever proving it....kids in his 20s and is taking more risks than GGG...he already beat Porter...OTHER former champions like Guerrero, Quintana, Collazo,Julio Diaz and Jan Zaveck

                      he has less fights than GGG and is 7 years younger yet has beaten more current and former champs...undefeated and nowhere near anyones p4p lists

                      thurman will be unifying, if he wins, in the ring vs an undefeated 2 division champion in his prime...you know...something GGG knows nothing about...his belts are gift wrapped and he doesnt have to fight for them.
                      None of those fighters ducked Thurman, which is why they're on his resume. Your comparison is useless. But go ahead and keep making a fool of yourselves and keep denying the guy is being ducked like a plague.

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