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  • fantasy5021
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    #41
    Originally posted by BOXING-SCRIBE
    "He smokes Danny Garcia...Thurman IF he wins.."wtf logic is that? If he smokes Garcia why are you questioning if Thurman can get passed Garcia? And if he did wouldn't Thurman get smoked too??here's a fact..he loses to both of them.
    I think Thurman is a better than Garcia..by a lot. Thats just my opinion. In the welterweight division Bradley, Pacman, Brook, and Thurman they all are better than garcia. Crawford destroys danny garcia my man.

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    • r1onnie2
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      #42
      Freddy will avoid that fight at all cost unless Manny speaks up and wants the fight. If it's up to Freddy it will never happen. Freddy knows there's levels to this, say what you want Jessie Vargas and Terrance Crawford are two different levels.

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      • BOXING-SCRIBE
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        #43
        Originally posted by fantasy5021
        I think Thurman is a better than Garcia..by a lot. Thats just my opinion. In the welterweight division Bradley, Pacman, Brook, and Thurman they all are better than garcia. Crawford destroys danny garcia my man.
        He was being outboxed by B level Dulorme and lil Gomboa was giving him the bidness too..Think about it.

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #44
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic
          It's true. Crawford is the B-side and naturally bigger than Pacquiao anyway, but he thinks he should be dictating the exact weight? Not even a catch-weight? 140 or bust?

          I mean that made it seem like Crawford was the one ducking. Maybe after the Postol fight, and seeing Pacman look so bad against Vargas, they are changing their tune. Now they want the Pacquiao fight, so now they want to make it look like they've been calling it for all along.

          But nah man. I even remember Crawford hedging every time someone asked him about fighting Pacquiao. He would never straight up call him out. He always seemed just as reluctant as Freddie Roach. Manny on the other hand will fight anyone.

          Anyway I'd love to see the fight at 145 lbs or something like that. Or Pacquiao-Loma. Or Loma-Crawford. That's a really good fight too. Crawford could come down for that one, making it 136 since he just came from 135 anyway. Loma comes up from 126 and now 130 briefly to fight Crawford. Crawford goes back to where he just was, 135, but with an extra point. That's Loma coming up 10 points in like a year, while Crawford only goes down 4 to a weight class he was within the last year.

          That seems more than fair to Crawford anyway. 136 might be a lot for Loma but I want to see it anyway.

          I hope as many fighters out of the group of Loma, Crawford, Mikey Garcia, Thurman, Spence, and Verdejo fight each other as possible. Throw in Pacquiao if he's still got enough left in the tank, throw in Floyd. Those are all fights that should happen.
          Why fight at 147? Isn't 140 a better weight for Manny since he comes in at 144 anyway. I thought sure I heard Manny or Roach speak of 140 being his best weight. I mean aren't they entertaining Loma at 140?

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          • fantasy5021
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            #45
            Originally posted by BOXING-SCRIBE
            He was being outboxed by B level Dulorme and lil Gomboa was giving him the bidness too..Think about it.
            Same can be said about Garcia...he struggled against herrera and peterson and even an old erik morales the first time.
            the only way we will know who is better between them is on fight night! cant wait man.

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            • dsomonster
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              #46
              Originally posted by Edward90
              Pacman has always said it's who his promoter wants him to fight (which I think is a copout). He may have fibal say so, but he doesn't use it (or own the fact that he uses it). Also, weight isn't an issue. If Pac can come to 140 to dight Loma, ehy can't he come to 140 for Crawford. Roach and Arum are on record saying that they don't want the Crawford fight for Manny. They prefer other fights. I'm not going to blame Crawford for that...
              Because it is a pride thing. Manny is the A-Side...PERIOD. He calls the shots just like he would with Loma. I do not see the A-side giving way to their opponent, no matter who it is.

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              • dsomonster
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                #47
                Originally posted by Edward90
                The problem with taking the tirch in this case is that Manny isn't allowing Crawford the opportunity to do that. May and Pac don't get the torch unless ODLH agrees to fight them...
                Agree to Pac's terms and put the owness on Manny, Arum and Team Pac. If Bud agrees to all the terms and Manny backs out, then I would have to agree it would be a clear "ducking" of Bud!

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                • robbyheartbaby
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                  #48
                  Easy for Crawford to criticise Manny for choosing world champion Vargas or Bradley, when he is fighting John f***ing Molina next. Remember Manny is the man he fights who he likes just like Floyd did. Manny fights because he can and still puts on a damn good show he owes nobody nothing

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                  • robbyheartbaby
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by dsomonster
                    Agree to Pac's terms and put the owness on Manny, Arum and Team Pac. If Bud agrees to all the terms and Manny backs out, then I would have to agree it would be a clear "ducking" of Bud!
                    Manny ducking? After all he has achieved in his career at 38 you think he owes anyone anything?! No, I am happy to watch Manny fight on against opponents of his choice. Bradley would wipe the floor with Crawford and look what Manny did to him.

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                    • HanzGruber
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                      #50
                      I don't see who else PAC could fight next. Def won't be loma

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