Comments Thread For: Crawford's Trainer: We Won't Get Pacquiao If It's Up to Roach

[Boxing Logic]

Roach doesn't get to say who Pacquiao fights. It is Pacquiao who gets the final say and you blew it like lottery money spent in a year. "140 or duck" who the heck says that kind of crap when a boxing star offers you a big fight at 147? And then cries "we didn't get the fight" because you demanded a weight Pacquiao doesn't want to fight. It's all of Crawford's fault why Vargas was chosen over him, and especially when Pacquiao already said that the Crawford fight isn't a problem at 147.

It's true. Crawford is the B-side and naturally bigger than Pacquiao anyway, but he thinks he should be dictating the exact weight? Not even a catch-weight? 140 or bust?

I mean that made it seem like Crawford was the one ducking. Maybe after the Postol fight, and seeing Pacman look so bad against Vargas, they are changing their tune. Now they want the Pacquiao fight, so now they want to make it look like they've been calling it for all along.

But nah man. I even remember Crawford hedging every time someone asked him about fighting Pacquiao. He would never straight up call him out. He always seemed just as reluctant as Freddie Roach. Manny on the other hand will fight anyone.

Anyway I'd love to see the fight at 145 lbs or something like that. Or Pacquiao-Loma. Or Loma-Crawford. That's a really good fight too. Crawford could come down for that one, making it 136 since he just came from 135 anyway. Loma comes up from 126 and now 130 briefly to fight Crawford. Crawford goes back to where he just was, 135, but with an extra point. That's Loma coming up 10 points in like a year, while Crawford only goes down 4 to a weight class he was within the last year.

That seems more than fair to Crawford anyway. 136 might be a lot for Loma but I want to see it anyway.

I hope as many fighters out of the group of Loma, Crawford, Mikey Garcia, Thurman, Spence, and Verdejo fight each other as possible. Throw in Pacquiao if he's still got enough left in the tank, throw in Floyd. Those are all fights that should happen.

[jqSide]

Roach's reason for avoiding Crawford for Pac is the same reason Floyd avoided Lara. Crawford and Lara run and bore the audience to death. Nobody blamed the best ever for avoiding Lara.





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[Thraxox]

It's true. Crawford is the B-side and naturally bigger than Pacquiao anyway, but he thinks he should be dictating the exact weight? Not even a catch-weight? 140 or bust?

I mean that made it seem like Crawford was the one ducking. Maybe after the Postol fight, and seeing Pacman look so bad against Vargas, they are changing their tune. Now they want the Pacquiao fight, so now they want to make it look like they've been calling it for all along.

But nah man. I even remember Crawford hedging every time someone asked him about fighting Pacquiao. He would never straight up call him out. He always seemed just as reluctant as Freddie Roach. Manny on the other hand will fight anyone.

Anyway I'd love to see the fight at 145 lbs or something like that. Or Pacquiao-Loma. Or Loma-Crawford. That's a really good fight too. Crawford could come down for that one, making it 136 since he just came from 135 anyway. Loma comes up from 126 and now 130 briefly to fight Crawford. Crawford goes back to where he just was, 135, but with an extra point. That's Loma coming up 10 points in like a year, while Crawford only goes down 4 to a weight class he was within the last year.

That seems more than fair to Crawford anyway. 136 might be a lot for Loma but I want to see it anyway.

I hope as many fighters out of the group of Loma, Crawford, Mikey Garcia, Thurman, Spence, and Verdejo fight each other as possible. Throw in Pacquiao if he's still got enough left in the tank, throw in Floyd. Those are all fights that should happen.

Good points.

[Bronx2245]

TC is not gonna get the Pacquiao fight, so he should talk to Arum for a fight with Danny Garcia, even if Garcia loses. They have some bad blood between them, and that usually makes for a good fight. Since Arum and Haymon made this fight for Molina, maybe TC can fight Broner @ 140, and then move up if he wins!

[Dean_Razorback]

there is enough in pacquiao's tank to beat crawford imo

[brettWall]

Bob Arum decides for Pacqiao's fights. He doesn't give a hoot what Roach or Koncz says. It's all up to Arum.

Vargas was not an easy fight for Manny. Saying the opposite is just fooling yourself and dishonest. I can't see Thurman or any prime welter doing it any easier with that version of Vargas who stood his ground with Paq the entire fight. I don't see Crawford being any more difficult for Pac because his running style would work against him.

[turnedup]

Well considering both Floyd and Pacquiao had already done great things before Oscar passed them the torch I would say fk off and leave the legends of their time alone. These young guys don't have any notable fights that just jump out at you on their records but want to fight the legends. Floyd and Manny both had more than a few rewatch worthy fights on their resume before they got the chance at the torch. Beat up most of your class and then we can talk about torches. I want to hear more give me Garcia, Thurman, Broner coming out of Crawford, and the same from those other young guys. The fact we are just now getting Thurman vs Garcia is pretty telling about this class of fighters we have right now.

[AdonisCreed]

Crawford is too dangerous he ain't getting Pacquiao. Manny will be fighting Jeff Horn aka the new Chris Algeri lol Crawford better go after Danny Garcia if he wants a big fight they are already beefing

[BOXING-SCRIBE]

Another easy fight for Crawford. Its time to get him some tough fights! Crawford is awesome! Its time for him to go up in weight. He smokes Danny Garcia. I would love to see him fight Thurman if he wins

"He smokes Danny Garcia...Thurman IF he wins.."wtf logic is that? If he smokes Garcia why are you questioning if Thurman can get passed Garcia? And if he did wouldn't Thurman get smoked too??here's a fact..he loses to both of them.

[BOXING-SCRIBE]

They never passed the torch, Dela Hoya took the torch from Whitaker and PBF and Manny took the torch from delahoya by beating him by UD or KO. They have to take the torch from them. There is no such thing as passing the torch because the fighters would fight back and the chances are they would win.

Oscar didnt take **** from sweet pea,, he got a gift decision..Tito beat sweet peas ass