Why Are Some People Ranking Lomachenko Over Crawford??

[Earl-Hickey]

Cos dey rayciss

Yeah I said it

Raycissssss

[CatchAndShoot]

Okay, so tell me, if Postol and Walters are both overhyped then why Postol is a better win than Walters?

Do you even realize than Postol was just a security guard in a food store before he turned pro? And Walters at least had some amateur career and experience?

When did I say Pistol was over hyped? He wasn't, and hes not. TC beating Pistol was the same as Ward beating Kovalev, except TC thoroughly dominated the consensus and legit other #1 fighter in the division. Postol just got done beating the hell out of amd knocking out Matthysse, a legit 140 lb. fighter, and the fight was one of those throwback, best vs best in the division type of fights.

You must have forgotten, but many people had Postol beating TC before the fight, and called it a 50/50. It was, but TV ended up being greater than we thought.

Such short memories. Amd lmao at Waters being a better win. The guy quit like a hoe, and only beat up naturally smaller men.

GTFOH with this Loma nut licking.

[CatchAndShoot]

Gary Russell Jr win > Gamboa
Walters < Postol
Rocky Martinez > Lundy

And I'm a big Bud fan so let's not belittle the caliber of both the guys because they both are two weight champs and the best in their group... Resume wise for a 8 fight streak Loma has but they are right next to each other in my p4p list..

You are on serious crack if you think GRJ > Gamboa. Gamboa was seen as a P4P level talent, and not only proved himself, but dominated top fighters. So wrong on that.

And hell, TC's win over Burns in Burn's backyard > most of Loma's resume. Loma couldn't even beat Solido. TC took apart a guy in Prescott, at the higher weight at the time, and made it look easy. You can't pressure and embarrass TC the way you can Loma, because TC has power, and the ability to finish you.

Loma has no pop, at all. Hes like a little jack rabbit with crazy skills, but with no firepower. There's been a ton of those type of fighters, and sooner or later, they always lost to the tough and rugged preasure fighters, because they can't command respect with their punching power.

Oh yeah, that already happened to Loma.

[boliodogs]

Lomachenko won two titles by either fighting for the vacant belt or going for the weakest title holder, while Crawford is Lineal champ in two weights and unified at Light Welterweight. No one should rank Lomachenko higher than Crawford.

Pound for pound is just personal opinion. It can't be proven unless two fighters are the same weight and fight each other. Who are you to tell everybody where they have to rank Crawford and Loma? Are you the pound for pound policeman? There are no right or wrong answers in pound for pound ratings,just different opinions. Rank Crawford wherever you want but that doesn't make people who don't rank Crawford as high as you do wrong.I rate all those good Russian fighters above Crawford. I rank GGG, Loma and Kovalev above Crawford pound for pound because my eyes tell me they are better fighters for their weight class than he is.

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comes down to how highly people regarded their opponents. either side will act like walters, grj and postol, gamboa are lightyears apart but... not really

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When did I say Pistol was over hyped? He wasn't, and hes not. TC beating Pistol was the same as Ward beating Kovalev, except TC thoroughly dominated the consensus and legit other #1 fighter in the division. Postol just got done beating the hell out of amd knocking out Matthysse, a legit 140 lb. fighter, and the fight was one of those throwback, best vs best in the division type of fights.

You must have forgotten, but many people had Postol beating TC before the fight, and called it a 50/50. It was, but TV ended up being greater than we thought.

Such short memories. Amd lmao at Waters being a better win. The guy quit like a hoe, and only beat up naturally smaller men.

GTFOH with this Loma nut licking.

Yeah, because Gamboa didn't move from 125 to 130 for one fight, and jumped directly to 135 and fought TC after fighting only one time at 135? Such a great win, beating a smaller guy .

You are on serious crack if you think GRJ > Gamboa. Gamboa was seen as a P4P level talent, and not only proved himself, but dominated top fighters. So wrong on that.

And hell, TC's win over Burns in Burn's backyard > most of Loma's resume. Loma couldn't even beat Solido. TC took apart a guy in Prescott, at the higher weight at the time, and made it look easy. You can't pressure and embarrass TC the way you can Loma, because TC has power, and the ability to finish you.

Loma has no pop, at all. Hes like a little jack rabbit with crazy skills, but with no firepower. There's been a ton of those type of fighters, and sooner or later, they always lost to the tough and rugged preasure fighters, because they can't command respect with their punching power.

Oh yeah, that already happened to Loma.

Yeah. His 2nd professional fight he fought a bigger guy who fought dirty and looked like he was clinging for survival in the final round. You sure showed us

For the record, Postol is a feather fisted puncher. Him beating a war-torn / overrated Matthysse who barely got past Prov means nothing to me.

And lmao: still using Gamboa as a great win. By that logic, Lomachenko's win over Walters >>>> Crawford easily. Donaire was a P4P talent who got KO'd by Walters need I remind you?

[Cheek busting]

probably because of the eye test cause he clearly has skills.. but yea bud has done more

depends what you weigh heavier

This.

Personally, I have Crawford higher on my "mythical pound for pound list."

But I can at least see why somebody might have Lomachenko higher - just because of how dominating he has looked against a true world class boxer in Walters.

[Scipio2009]

Lomachenko won two titles by either fighting for the vacant belt or going for the weakest title holder, while Crawford is Lineal champ in two weights and unified at Light Welterweight. No one should rank Lomachenko higher than Crawford.

The simple fact is that Terrence Crawford (have still yet to see the fight, and don't really plan on seeing it) apparently fought a negating style against Victor Postol while Lomachenko (in another fight that I'm likely not gonna see; Walters being on the shelf for aslong as he was gave a hint that he wouldn't be all that sharp anyway) boxed a sharp offensive style against Walters.

You add that HBO wants to boost Lomachenko, while seem unclear of what they want to do with Crawford (the cost to stage Crawford-Postol wasn't all that much prohibitively different from the cost to stage Lomachenko-Walters), and the story gets crafted by the folks who push the story

[soul_survivor]

Lomas best wins: Walters and Martinez

TCs best wins: Burns and Postol

They are both very close but keeping in mind the entire body of work that these two guys have, I'd rank Walters ahead...just. It's close and in all honesty, once Pacquiao and Wlad are gone for good, the p4p rankings will be a discussion between a group of guys who are all pretty similar in skill set, possibly experience and achievements.

Unlike the list of true p4p no. 1, from Leonard to Pac and May, there is no one who is a truly stand out name. I'd say Kovalev is p4p the no. 1 guy but he hasn't torn any great apart like Leonard or Pacquiao did. It's an even playing field.

[g27region]

GTFOH with this Loma nut licking.

GTFOH with your TC (and Postol) nut licking. I'm stated my opinion, and you start arguing with me only because I've dared to say that Lomachenko's scalps are little bit better, ha ha, it's you who's on TC **** so much that you even start discussion when you hear the opinion different that yours. I wasn't quoting you in the first place, because IDGAF about your opinion or what you think, it's you who started talking to me.

When did I say Pistol was over hyped? He wasn't, and hes not.

If Walters is overhyped then Postol is overhyped even more than Walters and I already told the reasons why

Postol just got done beating the hell out of amd knocking out Matthysse

You got it all wrong

Walters got done beating the hell out of and knocking out p4p fighter

And Postol got into competitive fight with brawler who never been in p4p list and who injured orbital bone in the proccess.

best vs best in the division type of fights.

The division is ****ed up if former security guard with no amateur boxing experience and 1 good win considered as second best fighter in it

You must have forgotten, but many people had Postol beating TC before the fight, and called it a 50/50. It was, but TV ended up being greater than we thought.

I have a good memory, I remember all these mother****ers like you who were trying to hype this bum up like he's any kind of threat to Crawford, saying stuff like "Postol is bigger, he might hurt Crawford" like he's some kind of devastating puncher when the mother****er is featherfisted af, and has 41% KO ratio, saying that it's a 50/50 when I've been telling that Postol is a bum since day 1 even before the fight. Here's the proof

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=45

My prediction was right - Crawford dominated Postol and it was far from being competitive. At the end of the day, I was right and all mother****ers like you were wrong because it wasn't 50/50 fight. You'll never learn. Stop watching boxing

Amd lmao at Waters being a better win. The guy quit like a hoe, and only beat up naturally smaller men.

And Postol wasn't running like a scared hoe from Crawford?

Only beat up injured Matthysse, ha ha, that makes him an elite top fighter of the division and better win, okay