Cotto vs Kirkland.....PPV

[SunSpace]

deluded ^............

Cotto's résumé speaks for itself; if you think Golovkin's the best, when he hasn't fought anybody, what's to stop me from believing the same about Cotto?

Cotto has the best résumé in boxing, and that Canelo fight is on HBO's YouTube for everybody to see.

Cotto thoroughly outboxed him. Weighing more than your opponent doesn't win you a fight.

[kiaba360]

He can beat anybody; I had him beating Canelo by a wide-margin, but somehow he apparently didn't get the same benefit of the doubt that Ward did against Kovalev.

He outboxed Canelo beautifully, in my view, but all people wanted to talk about was how Canelo's huffing and puffing/yelling shots (along with crowd noise) were causing "so much more damage."

I don't buy it. If a fighter isn't showing any signs of damage and is outboxing the other fighter, you can't just give rounds to the other guy for "looking bigger." That's not how it should work.

To this day, I feel that a lot of how that fight was "interpreted" had to do with Canelo's promise to fight Golovkin next.

People simply wanted Canelo to win. Cotto had somehow become a "heel" in the eyes of the public.

If that fight had been judged fairly, Cotto would be one of the top pound for pound fighters right now and undoubtedly in the running as the best.

So, yeah, I'm confident he can still beat elite fighters.

I do agree that he looked good against Canelo, but Canelo is one of the easier LMW match-ups imo. Lara, Andrade and the Charlos would be a pain in the ass for Cotto. If Cotto/Canelo 2 happens, he's probably gonna lose again.

[Mike D]

This would be an ok fight but not PPV worthy.

I agree. It has entertaining fight written all over it (for as long as it lasts anyway) but it's yet another should be HBO World Championship fight that somehow inexplicably finds itself on PPV

[NYC8224]

Cotto's résumé speaks for itself; if you think Golovkin's the best, when he hasn't fought anybody, what's to stop me from believing the same about Cotto?

Cotto has the best résumé in boxing, and that Canelo fight is on HBO's YouTube for everybody to see.

Cotto thoroughly outboxed him. Weighing more than your opponent doesn't win you a fight.

Cotto clearly lost that fight, no idea what the **** you were watching.

[NYC8224]

I do agree that he looked good against Canelo, but Canelo is one of the easier LMW match-ups imo. Lara, Andrade and the Charlos would be a pain in the ass for Cotto. If Cotto/Canelo 2 happens, he's probably gonna lose again.

Probably? Cotto definitely loses to Canelo again. Cotto is done, think he cares if he loses to a guy like Canelo at this point in his career? Canelo is supposed to win, why would Cotto kill himself to do the impossible when he makes over 10 mil regardless for a fight like that? Cut the crap

[BrometheusBob.]

Watchable fight but for the love of god please no PPV

[BrometheusBob.]

He can beat anybody; I had him beating Canelo by a wide-margin, but somehow he apparently didn't get the same benefit of the doubt that Ward did against Kovalev.

He outboxed Canelo beautifully, in my view, but all people wanted to talk about was how Canelo's huffing and puffing/yelling shots (along with crowd noise) were causing "so much more damage."

I don't buy it. If a fighter isn't showing any signs of damage and is outboxing the other fighter, you can't just give rounds to the other guy for "looking bigger." That's not how it should work.

To this day, I feel that a lot of how that fight was "interpreted" had to do with Canelo's promise to fight Golovkin next.

People simply wanted Canelo to win. Cotto had somehow become a "heel" in the eyes of the public.

If that fight had been judged fairly, Cotto would be one of the top pound for pound fighters right now and undoubtedly in the running as the best.

So, yeah, I'm confident he can still beat elite fighters.

Watch another sport

[NYC8224]

Watch another sport

In what world did Cotto beat Canelo? Are people that ****ing dumb?

[SunSpace]

Watch another sport

We can agree to disagree, but I've been in the ring and can tell you that there's more to it than weighing more than your opponent.

Canelo simply didn't land enough to be favored over Cotto's work-rate.

Heck, that stance makes even less sense when you consider that Cotto's no light puncher, either, so he should've received more credit himself.

If you watch that fight on HBO's YouTube and don't see that, well then we definitely have different criteria as to the sport, indeed.

If Ward received the benefit of the doubt (actually being a light puncher) against Kovalev, there's no reason Miguel Cotto should be treated like his consistently more numerous, landed punches aren't worth anything.

And that's also without taking into account that Cotto blocked or evaded a lot more of Canelo's lower-output shots than he was given credit for by the commentators/media.

I saw it as a dominant performance by Cotto; if there are fair judges in the rematch, he should win fairly easily.

Those scorecards were off, big-time.

[BrometheusBob.]

We can agree to disagree, but I've been in the ring and can tell you that there's more to it than weighing more than your opponent.

Canelo simply didn't land enough to be favored over Cotto's work-rate.

Heck, that stance makes even less sense when you consider that Cotto's no light puncher, either, so he should've received more credit himself.

If you watch that fight on HBO's YouTube and don't see that, well then we definitely have different criteria as to the sport, indeed.

If Ward received the benefit of the doubt (actually being a light puncher) against Kovalev, there's no reason Miguel Cotto should be treated like his consistently more numerous, landed punches aren't worth anything.

And that's also without taking into account that Cotto blocked or evaded a lot more of Canelo's lower-output shots than he was given credit for by the commentators/media.

I saw it as a dominant performance by Cotto; if there are fair judges in the rematch, he should win fairly easily.

Those scorecards were off, big-time.

To be fair I think I also scored it for Cotto on first watch but by no means did I think it was some dominant performance. But I also was pretty drunk and had money on Cotto to win.. less than ideal conditions for objective scoring lol.