Hopkins/Jones jr./Toney

[UnderControl-]

Jones, Hopkins, Toney.

[beezy 14]

I agree with you on this ferocity if I could just get you to loosen up on my boy Winky!lol but yea Roy over Hopkins because of the head to head. But would you put Toney below Roy because of the loss to Roy? I actually like Toney better but can't ignore Roy clearly beating him,

[ferocity]

I agree with you on this ferocity if I could just get you to loosen up on my boy Winky!lol but yea Roy over Hopkins because of the head to head. But would you put Toney below Roy because of the loss to Roy? I actually like Toney better but can't ignore Roy clearly beating him,

history doesn't allow me to aggree with you about winky

[Mr. Ryan]

Roy Jones Jr.
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney

Toney's career has been puzzling, and Hopkins' biggest wins were against welterweights. Jones beat them both. Thus my rankings.

[GreatestIam]

Defintly
Jones Jr. Watch a ****ing tape or something

Toney His defense is prolific, his offesnse puzzeling and he can ****ing box!

B_HOP he dominated a divison for like 20 years and is the ****ing executioner(would be higher had he did what jr and toney did by gaining titles in different divisions 4+ each)

There all awesome but thats how it is and should look

[ROSEWOOD]

Rosewood is this your ranking? It's fine just making sure you know I meant over their careers because you listed there most recent fight's. They've all had good career's so there is no wrong answer.

Hopkin-always fought and beat the best...lost to roy when he was young but roy was afraid to face his again..held the title for some years..20 something defenses...thats great..age just got him..

toney-fought the bet and beat the best..held the title for a very long time, until roy came along...continued to move up in class and is unbeated since he left MW..and just look at his record...he is always fighting and never taking off.

Roy-beat both above boxers but hop was younger...toney just simply got beat..held titles in pretty much every class but never really fought the best available boxer...when the best came, he lost..

[beezy 14]

Ferocity, you act like I said that Winky had to be the greatest or something I stated he was ducked and IF he beats Taylor he deserves to have a legacy. He has 1 clear and uncontreversial decision and some very good wins and hasn't loss a fight in a long time. What about that is incorrect from a History standpoint? I like Tito's fights and he was a very good fighters,but he was exposed by other elite fighters who could box(Oscar,Hopkins,Wright) and Pernell even tho he beat the older Pernell.Is there something incorrect about that? And Winky did dominate him and he did take defeat bad often retiring despite not being shot. And Winky's 4 yrs older or so so that he was aging thing is irrelevant. Notice how when Oscar loss to Hopkins some judges had him winning he just was the smaller man. When Tito loss he was dominated and had no answers or adjustments and those are facts.

[beezy 14]

Rosewood , but when Roy beat Hopkins weren't they similar in age if anything Hopkins slightly older? I see your points but I go with Roy above Hopkins because he did beat him and it wasn't that close.

[ferocity]

Ferocity, you act like I said that Winky had to be the greatest or something I stated he was ducked and IF he beats Taylor he deserves to have a legacy. He has 1 clear and uncontreversial decision and some very good wins and hasn't loss a fight in a long time. What about that is incorrect from a History standpoint? I like Tito's fights and he was a very good fighters,but he was exposed by other elite fighters who could box(Oscar,Hopkins,Wright) and Pernell even tho he beat the older Pernell.Is there something incorrect about that? And Winky did dominate him and he did take defeat bad often retiring despite not being shot. And Winky's 4 yrs older or so so that he was aging thing is irrelevant. Notice how when Oscar loss to Hopkins some judges had him winning he just was the smaller man. When Tito loss he was dominated and had no answers or adjustments and those are facts.

so too was ray leonard dominated by hector camacho and that a fact!

Margarito hasn't lost at welterweight in a long time and is being ducked by welterweight champions, these are facts!

stick to one thread, lets not jump threads and ruin other peoples threads

[ROSEWOOD]

Rosewood , but when Roy beat Hopkins weren't they similar in age if anything Hopkins slightly older? I see your points but I go with Roy above Hopkins because he did beat him and it wasn't that close.

yea playa but hop got started late...Roy won and no it wasnt close but what happen when Hop took over the MW class..Roy ran because he knew he would get beat up by Hop...Roy simply ran from that boy..if roy was such a bad ass he would have shut hop up..hop called him after for 10yrs and roy just ignored him...thats ***** foot