Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: Nicholas Walters Loses A lot of Credibility, But...

[New England]

They would be crazy to blackball walters after this..

Him vs salido, Martinez, gamboa would all be entertaining fights

the guy is going to have to rebuild at the least.


now, that said, i thought to myself "this fight is going to get stopped," right before the las tround ended. walters had no shot at winning, and he was starting to get hit with combinations. that was the begginning of the end. his corner should have thought about stopping the fight, and probably were considering it.

i don't hold it against walters that he was stopped, but it's tough to not hold anything against a fighter who wasn't damaged and hurt for giving up. he's supposed to trust his power, be in shape to fight 12 rounds, and have the experience needed to weather a storm. this is a guy who knocked nonito donaire into next week.



it's obviousy up to a fighter to determine when he's had enough, but in a sport that is contingent upon your answering the bell each round, some flack should be expected when a guy quits.



i think duran is a great example. he was agreat, great fighter. his first win over leonard might be the best win ever in a boxing match. but we still talk about no mas. that's a cardinal sin, and one that will have people all but writing you off if you can't get back on the winning track and make you forget about it.


duran, of course, would go on to fight a close fight with marvin hagler, beat up and defeat iran barkley, and knock davey moore clear across the ring.

[nacho daddy]

I used to respect Jones analysis but over the last 2, almost 3 years he has just become the excuse maker for black boxers. This **** has gotten ridiculous.

I can't remember which Pac/Bradley fight he was but he was calling something completely different to what everyone was watching.

Edit: actually, may have been Bradley v Provo.

Anyway, my point is, Jones has on a pair of glasses through which he seems destined to continuously make excuses for black fighters, even in things which they are inexcusable. I'm not sure whats happened , since he used to be a very balanced analyst for a long time.

may be as his ring career goes beyond rock bottom, he needs people to tune in and thinks he can play the race card

you are right about jones but he was for serge against ward and came close to saying decision was fixed for mental ward

[Sugar Adam Ali]

the guy is going to have to rebuild at the least.


now, that said, i thought to myself "this fight is going to get stopped," right before the las tround ended. walters had no shot at winning, and he was starting to get hit with combinations. that was the begginning of the end. his corner should have thought about stopping the fight, and probably were considering it.

i don't hold it against walters that he was stopped, but it's tough to not hold anything against a fighter who wasn't damaged and hurt for giving up. he's supposed to trust his power, be in shape to fight 12 rounds, and have the experience needed to weather a storm. this is a guy who knocked nonito donaire into next week.



it's obviousy up to a fighter to determine when he's had enough, but in a sport that is contingent upon your answering the bell each round, some flack should be expected when a guy quits.



i think duran is a great example. he was agreat, great fighter. his first win over leonard might be the best win ever in a boxing match. but we still talk about no mas. that's a cardinal sin, and one that will have people all but writing you off if you can't get back on the winning track and make you forget about it.


duran, of course, would go on to fight a close fight with marvin hagler, beat up and defeat iran barkley, and knock davey moore clear across the ring.

I agree.. that last round Walters wasn't just getting out pointed, he was getting damaged n rocked.. corner should have taken the heat and thrown in towel instead of him quitting

And yes he will have to rebuild.. but who wouldn't want to see him vs Salido or Martinez in the future.. he needs to get right back in the ring, even if it's vs some club fighter, just to put this behind him.. I think the longer he stays out, harder it will be to become relevant again

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

I think loma would beat him either way but it would be more competitive with tune ups and no lay off

[My Low Place]

They didn't blackball him before this... He sat out a year looking for a big fight pay day and he secured one.

name all the offers they made him..we only know of one..and u dont have quotes u're just defensive..u dont have his plan u're just defensive..

uchiyama fell about bc of the wba forced him to fight the furtuna then corrales...at that point bob basically quit talkin about him..

a promoter does his job 30% of the way and u mean to tell me that isnt blackballing..pac has had 3 ppv since walters last fight correct? so if u dont have hbo dates why ont put him on that undercard?? BC HE'S BLACKBALLED AND OVERLOOKED..

[My Low Place]

wasn't he offered this fight earlier this year and turned it down? and who tells him to get fat and sloppy just because there is no fight scheduled, he's undisciplined and went out like a coward. just look at how he chases loma to the corner to hug him while loma laughs at him, **** was disgusting to watch.

u think it's free to stay in boxing shape and sharp with your punches?? dude prolly made 50k to be robbed by arum/sosa/hbo..
after being promised he would see pay raises in his big fights..

then they offer him the B side to loma who has more losses, less wins, and the same size fan base...
i was glad he quit..i didnt need to see anymore of that..
a potential great fight turned into one sharp beast vs a man that was searching for himself after political turmoil BS in his career.

i know, bob knows, loma knows, your know, and hbo knows that loma didnt beat the best of nicholas watlers..
idc who wouldve won all i can ask for is promoters to make the fights even..and they never will so i may need a new sport to watch bc fans like you allow them to keep it up..

[Sugar Adam Ali]

name all the offers they made him..we only know of one..and u dont have quotes u're just defensive..u dont have his plan u're just defensive..

uchiyama fell about bc of the wba forced him to fight the furtuna then corrales...at that point bob basically quit talkin about him..

a promoter does his job 30% of the way and u mean to tell me that isnt blackballing..pac has had 3 ppv since walters last fight correct? so if u dont have hbo dates why ont put him on that undercard?? BC HE'S BLACKBALLED AND OVERLOOKED..

Walters was holding out for a big payday,, he wasn't blackballed.. Big payday finally came and he returned..
He could have easily fought and stayed active, but he wasn't going to fight unless it was a huge sum of money. Nobody was willing to pay him over 500k unless he was fighting a guy like loma..

How the **** is a promoter suppose to get him a fight, when he wants over 500k???? How many fights were available for that price tag?????

[devildg]

He got paid, he got what he wanted. Then he quit when the going gets tough. Stop defending this nonsense.

[soul_survivor]

you are right about jones but he was for serge against ward and came close to saying decision was fixed for mental ward

I only watched the sky broadcast so you could be right about that but I was hearing the HBO team were pretty **** that night.

[My Low Place]

Walters was holding out for a big payday,, he wasn't blackballed.. Big payday finally came and he returned..
He could have easily fought and stayed active, but he wasn't going to fight unless it was a huge sum of money. Nobody was willing to pay him over 500k unless he was fighting a guy like loma..

How the **** is a promoter suppose to get him a fight, when he wants over 500k???? How many fights were available for that price tag?????

I'D NEED U TO PROVIDE FACTS ONT HIS NOT SPECULATIONS..
most fighter willt ake easy tune ups for less money...like danny garcia just did..he didnt get big money as usual

so u provide the proof or u're just downing a man using no evidence and tht isnt cool

but to you point bob did tell walters his purse would go up after the sosa...but we know wat that Draw did to that..