Comments Thread For: Nicholas Walters' Surrender Elicits Same Old Song and Dance

[Verus]

The writer of this article is a coward. Fitzimmons.

I take it that you have fought world-class fighters in the ring, or have been in close quarters combat in the military so that you can recognize cowardice first hand. Or are you one of the doughnut eating overweight keyboard warriors that populate this site?

[angkag]

This was not a fighter getting beaten down. This was not a guy taking punishment that changed his life. This was not something 99.9% of the sport would quit over. This was something thousands of fighters have recovered from to make a fight competitive and even win.

You're missing the point - all the Gatti type comebacks have been in circumstances where each boxer continues to be able to get SOMETHING off. When there is a war, there is give and take, there are thousands of examples where boxers were taking a lot more than they were giving, but managed to pull out the shot that changed the balance and to go on and win.

Walters proved himself at the end of round 2 with Donaire - he got hit hard enough that he didn't know where his corner was for a bit. Watch him in his corner - there was no question about him going out for round 3. A war just broke out that he knew he could win, so hurt or not, he was going on.

v Loma he was landing NOTHING that gave him or anyone else any hope he could change things. If Gatti had been unable to land ANYTHING with Ward (or vice versa), only eat shots, then what would the outcome have been do you think ? One of the corners would throw the towel in if there was no comeback possible, or the ref would have stopped it, only questions would have been ones we have heard many times as well - whether the corner and/or ref should have acted sooner.

Very often we hear the comment that fighters don't know when its time to call it a night, and the corners and referee need to protect them from unnecessary damage when it gets so uphill that there is no way back.

The hardest ones are where a boxer is taking hellacious punishment, but keeps being able to throw, and lands the occasional shot that suggests there is hope of that game-changing one getting home. So the punishment continues right to the very end. Go watch Perez/Abdusalamov again.

Walters did exactly the same as Tyson did against Holyfield, said No Mas, but in a different way (and if you doubt it, read Atlas's prediction again - he called it before it even happened). And at least Tyson still had hope of landing that game-changing shot - Tyson quit when there was still hope, Walters quit when there was none.

[rongizzle]

Bob Arum gave him an extra million to quit. I'm sure of it. Seeing as he was probably going to lose anyway he took the payoff and mortgaged the rest of his career. If he didn't do it, he would've lost the fight and been put on the shelf. BIG MISTAKE signing with Top Rank.

[bigjavi973]

I disagree completely..... he didnt even try to go balls to walls either.

He quit. Plain and simple. Stop defending this crap.

[anonymous2.0]

Forget athletic intent. I'd wager that most of them wouldn't go outside in a heavy rain, or walk upstairs to a free buffet.

I'd climb a mountain for a free cheeseburger u don't know my life

Not in the rain tho

[angkag]

I'd climb a mountain for a free cheeseburger u don't know my life

Not in the rain tho

Throw in free donuts, even the rain wouldn't stop me ! And I would do it without a raincoat ! Add fried chicken and...(gotta stop, breathing too heavy)

http://imgur.com/gallery/NUyttbn

(eye of the tiger)

[angkag]

By the way Mike D. Brian 'eye of the mullet' Sutherland had a second fight ?

I only caught the first - which was legendary enough that I need to go find the second now.......

[Mpower]

Lyle fitzsimmons i don't know who you are but you've gone high up in my estimations. I couldn't agree more with your article.

It's always the weaklings who cry coward when a fighter decides he's taken enougb of a beating. Why should he die or worse, ruin the rest of his life just to entertain the mongs?

Thank you for a brilliant article.

[Madison Boxing]

great article, what i was saying the other dy basically, he quit, so what. People quit all the time in sports and life, shouldnt victimise him for it. He made a snap decision in the heat of the moment. Hes no coward, just watch the donaire fight.

[Madison Boxing]

Lyle fitzsimmons i don't know who you are but you've gone high up in my estimations. I couldn't agree more with your article.

It's always the weaklings who cry coward when a fighter decides he's taken enougb of a beating. Why should he die or worse, ruin the rest of his life just to entertain the mongs?

Thank you for a brilliant article.

i agree ^........