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  • #61
    Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
    What makes you think Brook is bigger than Golovkin? Because of Brook my ass. UK fans are boxing fans and Golovkin is a treat to boxing fans.
    Are you for real????

    UK fans are fans of UK fighters, rarely is a fight not involving at least one UK fighter ever on PPV here. When Canelo vs Golovkin happens it won't even be PPV in the UK.

    Brook is the major reason for those numbers not Golovkin.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BWC View Post
      "Casuals" aren't really excited about UFC. They're excited about Conor and to a lesser extent Ronda. Stars sell fights, whether it's Karate point fighting or UFC or boxing, people buy PPVs of stars. Casuals don't understand MMA at all, they don't have a clue nor give a **** about armbars or mount guard or wall strategies, or whatever. They just hear about this Irish dude talking smack and is in the media all the time, and so they are now into UFC more than boxing or whatever.

      Truth is, these boxing fights aren't selling because these are fights between people with zero media profile. When was the last time Ward was on ESPN or who has ever heard of Kovalev? UFC is very good with building up hype..
      Exactly. who is going to excite casual fans more:

      the guy that talks a ton of sh-t and yells we didn't come here to take part we came here to take over OR

      a guy you can barely understand what he is saying and another guy who is very polite, bland and speaks in a monotone voice?

      UFC has the personalities that boxing lacks.

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      • #63
        Really isn't out of line with historical numbers.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view#HBO_PPV

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        • #64
          Wonder what this means for the rematch

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          • #65
            Originally posted by NaijaD View Post
            Are you for real????

            UK fans are fans of UK fighters, rarely is a fight not involving at least one UK fighter ever on PPV here. When Canelo vs Golovkin happens it won't even be PPV in the UK.

            Brook is the major reason for those numbers not Golovkin.
            So how many PPV's did Brook-Gavin sell, since it was all Brook? The fight sold about as well as Groves-Froch in some regards according to Hearn (i'd have to find the video to specify), because of Kell Brook? He's the english name, but lets not act like Golovkin didn't do his part. I'm not american, I don't live in America, I live very close to Britain actually. I'm not saying Brook wasn't needed, but it was his attached name(a known englishman) vs a known name in the sport is what sold the fight.
            Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-28-2016, 12:08 PM.

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            • #66
              Maybe Ward and Kovalev aren't popular to the casual fans.

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              • #67
                In the US PPV market, Canelo is somewhat of a star.

                In the UK PPV market, if Hearn is to be believed, AJ is some what of a star.

                That's it.

                Pacquiao's star has faded badly after the Mayweather loss and all the politically motivated bs.

                Mayweather's own final ppv was low by the May/Pac string of PPV from around 2007 to 2015.

                Boxing in the last decade as failed to create a star because too many of the young guys have refused to fight the best or not fought often enough for people to care.

                "It's bidness doe" and "they gettin paid doe" crowd must be proud.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                  Really isn't out of line with historical numbers.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view#HBO_PPV
                  It's out of line with their purses though, and Ward has implied that he wants an even bigger purse for the rematch

                  I doubt he will ever take another risky fight for less than $5m

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Exactly. who is going to excite casual fans more:

                    the guy that talks a ton of sh-t and yells we didn't come here to take part we came here to take over OR

                    a guy you can barely understand what he is saying and another guy who is very polite, bland and speaks in a monotone voice?

                    UFC has the personalities that boxing lacks.
                    Boxing has plenty of guys that could have grown had Haymon not pulled them into obscurity. Thurman had hype, Danny Garcia was showing promise as a draw, and plenty of other guys had alot more viewership which would segway into more attention to the special fighter(s) that beat them. Instead ***boy Haymon has guys basically out of the sport until everyone forgets them and then makes the 'big' fights.
                    Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-28-2016, 12:14 PM.

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                    • #70
                      I thought it would atleast do 300k.

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