Offensive wise the difference of the Offense of Pac and Lomo?

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  • Thraxox
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    Offensive wise the difference of the Offense of Pac and Lomo?

    If I look in the fight the angles on carefully shot right hooks and straight left hand displays from Lomachenko is similar to how a younger Pacquiao did in his feather weight days but the difference is how Lomachenko's set up in the flurries while relying on foot work to create an offensive opening such as when Walters throws a left hook. Loma's in and out movement create a false sense of opening where Walters keeps on stepping on the traps that Lomachenko created.

    While Pacquiao sets up his double jab straight left when the guy is backing up. Fundamentally different in both fighters. And especially Pacquiao's infamous right hook feint straight left feint right hook punch, also using his superior in and out footwork to create a false sense of opening and to get out of harms way, just like what Loma does.

    Great fighter from Loma, he made a top feather weight look mediocre. I'll look forward to more in his fights in the future.
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    Originally posted by Thraxox
    If I look in the fight the angles on carefully shot right hooks and straight left hand displays from Lomachenko is similar to how a younger Pacquiao did in his feather weight days but the difference is how Lomachenko's set up in the flurries while relying on foot work to create an offensive opening such as when Walters throws a left hook. Loma's in and out movement create a false sense of opening where Walters keeps on stepping on the traps that Lomachenko created.

    While Pacquiao sets up his double jab straight left when the guy is backing up. Fundamentally different in both fighters. And especially Pacquiao's infamous right hook feint straight left feint right hook punch, also using his superior in and out footwork to create a false sense of opening and to get out of harms way, just like what Loma does.

    Great fighter from Loma, he made a top feather weight look mediocre. I'll look forward to more in his fights in the future.
    They are nothing alike, at all.

    Pac throws straight shots and is a one dimensional boxer puncher with average defense who relies on pressure, volume, and power. Lomachenko is basically a complete fighter to enjoys headhunting and will throw at a high volume to take you out. He does many things Manny doesn't:change speeds, throw punches from different angles in transition, and slip and roll mid combination and adapt to the fight without slowing down his offense.

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      #3
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
      They are nothing alike, at all.

      Pac throws straight shots and is a one dimensional boxer puncher with average defense who relies on pressure, volume, and power. Lomachenko is basically a complete fighter to enjoys headhunting and will throw at a high volume to take you out. He does many things Manny doesn't:change speeds, throw punches from different angles in transition, and slip and roll mid combination and adapt to the fight without slowing down his offense.
      I'm not saying they're alike. I'm saying how they create the offense. Lomachenko is the complete fighter, fundamentally sound. But I'm just saying how it is similar to their work rate and flurries to create the opening. Manny can't do all those things because he is a one dimensional fighter and Lomachenko does more. What I'm saying is how they create the opening for their opponents for them to take and punish them, that's when I said they are similar.

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        Pac is a faster more powerful with better head movement version of Loma.

        Loma does change the speed of his punches better but really anyone can do that

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          Originally posted by Check_hooks
          Pac is a faster more powerful with better head movement version of Loma.

          Loma does change the speed of his punches better but really anyone can do that
          Pacquiao is more dangerous in terms of offense, and had the better head movement, but footwork? Eh...I squeaked it out an even. And the more unorthodox fighter,

          Lomachnko is more refined, though less dangerous offensively, he is better defensively. Superior foot work and transitional methods in mid range fighting.

          They are both mid range fighters that is for sure.

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            Originally posted by LoadedWraps
            They are nothing alike, at all.

            Pac throws straight shots and is a one dimensional boxer puncher with average defense who relies on pressure, volume, and power. Lomachenko is basically a complete fighter to enjoys headhunting and will throw at a high volume to take you out. He does many things Manny doesn't:change speeds, throw punches from different angles in transition, and slip and roll mid combination and adapt to the fight without slowing down his offense.
            I'm sorry ...but this is bullshyt. You severely underrate Pac's IQ inside the ring. Yes, Pac gets tagged now and then by right hands but I credit that moreso to him facing bigger guys 99% of the time who have reach/height advantages. To connect he has to close distance and take risks to get in range. And as a southpaw, he's prone to get hit by the right. Other than JMM, who has his timing down.

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            • g27region
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              I feel like Lomachenko is way better at controlling the distance than Pacquiao

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                Originally posted by Strategic1
                I'm sorry ...but this is bullshyt. You severely underrate Pac's IQ inside the ring. Yes, Pac gets tagged now and then by right hands but I credit that moreso to him facing bigger guys 99% of the time who have reach/height advantages. To connect he has to close distance and take risks to get in range. And as a southpaw, he's prone to get hit by the right. Other than JMM, who has his timing down.
                He called Pacquiao's defense "Average" When Pacquiao's stats shows that usually he gets hit under the 25% mark. While he made Mayweather a career low percentage stat on the punch stats.

                He is great on other topics such as GGG, or Sergey Kovalev, but when it just comes to Pacquiao he severely discredits him and underrates him.

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                • Sweet Pea 50
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                  Pac still is one of the most unique offensive fighters I have ever seen.

                  Because of Loma's amazing footwork and defensive ability, he creates a lot of opportunities to chain in his offense, which is pretty damn good.

                  Pac was a buzz saw, though. He hurt HOF fighters with shots from angles and positions that you seldom see, and he could do it in the championship rounds.

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                    To TS: You DKSAB!

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