Does the media manipulate fans into accepting bad decisions?

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  • frantic fighter
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    Does the media manipulate fans into accepting bad decisions?

    I know this has been beat to death already,but take the Ward/Kovalev fight for example, as soon as it was announced we heard the term boxer versus puncher at nauseam. I assume that most people here are "Hardcores" but if that regurgitated statement doesn't completely brain wash you, it at the very least predisposes you to some potentially bias thinking.For instance I originally gave Ward round three of the fight,but on the second watch I really can't see my reasoning behind that. In fact the only admirable thing that Ward did that round was not being knocked out,and the only legitimate criticism that can be passed along to Kovalev was that he didn't finish Ward off. What is worse this way of thinking seemed to be almost encourage by Kellerman during the telecast.
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    Of course they do, not just the fans, but also the judges are brainwashed as well.

    Watch some of Floyd's fights, had they been held in other countries he would have had a couple Losses on his record without doubt.

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    • Hype job
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      Yeah they set the narrative of "boxer vs puncher" to give the impression that Ward is the better boxer (he's not).

      So unless Kovalev knocks Ward out or destroys him, the public are led to believe Ward shuffling around the ring means he's outboxing him..

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        Lampley was pro Kovalev calling punches that clearly missed. Lederman was pro Kovalev he even gave round 9 t Kovalev. Kellerman was the most neutral saying rounds that were close could go either way.

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          I thought going into the fight the public knew Ward was an Olympic Gold medalist and it dont help your case that the Russian is called ' Krusher ' with 80+ KO percentage.' But tha media made that up.'

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          • BrometheusBob.
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            Plenty of media will call out a robbery if that is indeed what they actually see.

            The reason you don't see the same kind of visceral reaction from most of the media with Ward-Kovalev is because they did not see a robbery. Lots of media disagreed with the decision but that is not the same as seeing a robbery.


            Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 11-26-2016, 03:36 PM.

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            • daggum
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              #7
              many people on here kept saying either kov by ko or ward by decision and their self fulfilling prophecy came true even though the punches told a different story

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              • sicko
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                No actually I think Media kinda plays into what the fans want to hear instead of being HONEST, they did it for the Pacquiao ERA and it has breaded some of the worse fans ANY SPORT HAS EVER SEEN! Now we have fans who scream robbery even when it doesn't apply just because they don't want to admit that they was WRONG. Kovalev vs Ward is too close to be considered a Robbery and forgive me for being born before Millennials who didn't think boxing existed before Mayweather and Pacquiao so I have seen FAR WORSE Decisions that Ward vs Kovalev. Whitaker vs Chavez Sr was a far worse Robbery than Ward vs Kovalev which again was too close to scream "ROBBERY!". Oscar De La Hoya vs Whitaker, Lennox Lewis vs Holyfield 1, Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Sturm, Paul Malignaggi vs Juan Diaz 1 and so many more

                I still have it a Draw watching it 4 times now and people b1tch and complain an try to tell me how "THIS FIGHT CAN'T BE A DRAW"? You're all Whiny Bias B!TCHES to be honest All Sides both Ward Supporters and Kovalev Supporters then want to make this a Racial Situation. As if Americans haven't been robbed in America as well but that fight last week that was too CLOSE to be called a "ROBBERY" IMO
                Last edited by sicko; 11-26-2016, 03:49 PM.

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                • Blackclouds
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                  Whiny ass *****es still crying over this fight. Get over it.

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                  • BrometheusBob.
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                    Originally posted by sicko
                    No actually I think Media kinda plays into what the fans want to hear instead of being HONEST, they did it for the Pacquiao ERA and it has breaded some of the worse fans ANY SPORT HAS EVER SEEN! Now we have fans who scream robbery even when it doesn't apply just because they don't want to admit that they was WRONG. Kovalev vs Ward is too close to be considered a Robbery and forgive me for being born before Millennials who didn't think boxing existed before Mayweather and Pacquiao so I have seen FAR WORSE Decisions that Ward vs Kovalev. Whitaker vs Chavez Sr was a far worse Robbery than Ward vs Kovalev which again was too close to scream "ROBBERY!". Oscar De La Hoya vs Whitaker, Lennox Lewis vs Holyfield 1, Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Sturm, Paul Malignaggi vs Juan Diaz 1 and so many more

                    I still have it a Draw watching it 4 times now and people b1tch and complain an try to tell me how "THIS FIGHT CAN'T BE A DRAW"? You're all Whiny Bias B!TCHES to be honest All Sides both Ward Supporters and Kovalev Supporters then want to make this a Racial Situation. As if Americans haven't been robbed in America as well but that fight last week that was too CLOSE to be called a "ROBBERY" IMO
                    I agree with most of this post, other than "this fight can't be a draw" part which is just a mathematical fact. If you score a 10-8 round (eg. Kov rd 2) and all your other rounds are scored 10-9 (eg. no other knockdowns, no ref deductions, no super one sided rounds, no even rounds), you literally cannot construct a card that is a draw.
                    Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 11-26-2016, 03:57 PM.

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