Comments Thread For: Walters: Whatever Judges Decide Saturday, We Have To Live With It

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Two of the three judges assigned to score their 12-rounder for Lomachenko's WBO world super featherweight title Burt Clements and Glenn Trowbridge scored Andre Ward a 114-113 winner over Sergey Kovalev the previous Saturday night, which led to a decision that is considered controversial at least by some media and fans. The Nevada State Athletic Commission assigned the third judge, Adalaide Byrd, to score Lomachenko-Walters despite that Bob Arum's Top Rank Inc., which promotes both boxers, requested that the NSAC not assign Byrd to score this main event at The Cosmopolitan (HBO; 10:35 p.m. ET).
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[Arg_Tincho]

Sounds like he is anticipating a desicion loss. I cant tell if he is just being realistic or he lacks confidence. Still this is going to be a hell of a fight! I cant wait for it! These are the matchups the fans need!

[rrayvez]

Not sure of its a wise decision to bring back 2 of the 3 judges who just submitted controversial scorecards only 1 week later in another big fight. Is there a shortage of judges?

[angkag]

I like Walter's attitude in this.

I would be surprised if the fight was close enough for any judging controversy, but the possibility remains.

Trowbridge and Clements just demonstrated they don't give credit to the stronger, more aggressive fighter (Kovalev), and that's basically going to be Walters in there. If Trowbridge and Clements are consistent, Loma gets the nod in an even fight (or likeKovalev, even if Walters looks like he does enough to win, Loma will get all the swing rounds).

Byrd is the unknown. I've looked through her record and don't see anything untoward. There are accusations that she scores too widely at times, but this seems to be for the for the right guy (vs wide scoring for the wrong guy...thinking of you Gale Van Hoy), so no great sin there. There are also accusation of a race bias, I don't see any evidence of that, but maybe the accusations alone were enough to contribute to the objection of her as a judge. More likely is that she might favour go-forward fighters more (which might favour Walters) - but didn't see any evidence of that either though. Either way, will be interesting to see her scores vs the other two.

Only certainty is that Clements and Trowbridge will be rubbing their rabbits feet and hoping to not be in the middle of another controversy so shortly after Ward/Kovalev, so some pressure on them.

[angkag]

Not sure of its a wise decision to bring back 2 of the 3 judges who just submitted controversial scorecards only 1 week later in another big fight. Is there a shortage of judges?

Sure seems that way eh ?

Here's my pick for the judge dream team

1) Lisa Giampa (had Loma v Russell a draw)
2) Gale Van Hoy (tell him one of them has Texan roots)
3) Pierre Benoist (had Williams beating Martinez 119-110 in their first fight)

Then you don't actually need the fight, just have the judges put their scorecards in the night before and be done with it.

[nycsmooth]

This is not encouraging especially with Byird as a judge... I posted my comments 2 days ago is what I thought as for the other 2, what can you say ??they are quite competent but I still had Kovalev winning seven 7-to 5...

[angkag]

Just watched Walters v Donaire and Walters v Sosa - seemed like 2 different guys.

The Walters v Donaire seemed to move a lot more and be 'twitchier' - ie faster reflexes. The Walters v Sosa seemed a lot more flat-footed. Lets agree Walters did enough to beat Sosa (so avoid THAT judging controversy), but Sosa got in a LOT of shots against Walters during the fight.

For sure Walters's needs to back to his Donaire best, but you have to question how he's going to do that given his inactivity and alarming weight fluctuation while inactive. If its the same Walters as vs Sosa, he's going to catch a lot more punches than he did against Sosa, while landing fewer. At least Loma doesn't hit as hard as Sosa (I think, but not sure about that), and Walters can hit a lot harder than Russell (for example), so some pluses for Walters there. Also if Walters can survive those flush Donaire left hooks, I doubt Lomachenko can put him away (odds on Donaire being able to land a flush left hook on Loma if they met ? - back to Walter's defence again).

The weight fluctuation keeps coming back to mind - how many boxers improve while letting themselves go between fights ? ok Duran seemed to be able to get away with it, but hard to say it improved him (Leonard mentioned one of the reasons he wanted Duran so quickly after the first match was seeing Duran's condition shortly after their first fight. Even if Duran had 2 months, one suspects that wasn't enough to get back to prime and Leonard knew it). ok Walters had had more time to get the weight off correctly, but its still a red flag coupled with the difference in the Donaire/Sosa versions of Walters.

[al-Xander]

I expect no hometown decision here. They're both foreigners. Why is this even being asked of them? What are they supposed to answer?

[HURTFEELINGS]

This is not encouraging especially with Byird as a judge... I posted my comments 2 days ago is what I thought as for the other 2, what can you say ??they are quite competent but I still had Kovalev winning seven 7-to 5...

Now that's reasonable and understandable , your statement. After witnessing people think Pac won vs Mayweather, then want others to believe your scoring is legit, when we saw how others scored previous matches, people have biases claiming to be objective, if you had more credibility you would have an audience to hear you out, but this is what the standard is in here, CRY, CRY, CRY. The same people that want you to believe Salt Water heals "severely" torn rotator cuffs in 3 MONTHS, want you to believe their scoring...

[DannYankee]

Boxing judges killing boxing one ****ty decision at a time. He may have to live with it, but fans are getting s*ck and tired of bull**** decisions specially long time ones like myself. It's not every fight but some years are worse than others and as I get older this **** is really getting old especially when it happens in high profile fights. Even when it doesn't affect the outcome most of the time there's that one judge that has you wondering what the *** was he looking at which means it was very close for the fight to be fked all it takes is 2 blind ones to fk it up.