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  • O.K.! 2.0
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    #21
    Originally posted by JASON SHAW
    Gary russell will take valdez to boxing school.... Easy work
    Russell needs to take himself to school! Russell needs to understand that he needs more than speed to be a top fighter. He should've learned a valuable lesson thinking his speed would beat Lomo. Where was all these guys before Lomo moved up?

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    • DumpkinsPlus5
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      #22
      Originally posted by O.K.! 2.0
      Russell needs to take himself to school! Russell needs to understand that he needs more than speed to be a top fighter. He should've learned a valuable lesson thinking his speed would beat Lomo. Where was all these guys before Lomo moved up?
      I agree. Fast hands will put you above the bums and the mediocre, but at the highest level you need skills. At the elite level you fight guys that you're not going to beat simply by being fast. Lomachenko showed him this. Russell is flat footed and has absolutely no care for what's coming back when he lets his hands go. Not to mention he's never beat anyone THAT good. Not sure we can say Valdez is elite yet, but he definitely has a chance in this fight.

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      • richardt
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        #23
        This would be a guaranteed exciting fight. I have concern with both guys. A) Russell and his talks about retiring in a few fights has me concerned about his motivations for boxing and if his heart is not all the way in it. B), Valdez makes a huge mistake and it is shocking he has not corrected it. He loads up on every single shot and never varies the intensity. That's going to cost him stamina and will make him susceptible to counters against higher opposition. But this would be a barnburner fight.

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        • TheUptownKid
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          #24
          I'm a fan of Russell and he wants big names, tried for Selby, frampton and Santa Cruz but he is not a big money fight so he is being avoided. This may be his only option but I think a purse bid for a unification fight could get him a decent purse.

          I think Valdez is a quality fighter and is on a hell of a run, however he's not really crafty which is what cost grj vs Loma. I think it'd be an exciting fight as both are available to be hit and both throw bombs
          Last edited by TheUptownKid; 11-25-2016, 12:41 AM.

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          • Corelone
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            #25
            Russell excels against the Mexican school, he made his career fighting Mexican TBAs. He won his title against a Mexican. Valdez might be fresher, but I think Russell can figure him out. Somebody go find Russell, I think he's scared of making money.

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            • Scipio2009
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              #26
              Originally posted by O.K.! 2.0
              You make a good point! If this kid wants to become a star, Arum will give him a better chance of doing so. The only problem I see with having Arum/Haymon as ur promoter/manager, Arum does business different than Haymon. A lot of Haymon fighters HAVE NOT fault once in 2016. Arum has an eye for talent while Haymon has an eye on how to steal talent.
              Al Haymon developed Errol Spence Jr from scratch, so to act like Haymon has a bad eye for talent is ridiculous.

              Arum can't make Valdez for the simple fact that 1)he no longer controls the TV at HBO and 2) he has access to very few of the actual top fighters at 126 [with most of the talent with Haymon, Top Rank would be treated like Arum treats Zanfer in pretty much every fight].

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              • slimPickings
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                #27
                Originally posted by O.K.! 2.0
                Gary has been fighting bums his entire career but got exposed when he face Lomo! I think this kid & Frampton beat Russell.
                Losing to Loma is being exposed!!! Really

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                • GMAN SUPREME
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                  #28
                  valdez brutally stops russell jr.

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                  • JASON SHAW
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by o.k.! 2.0
                    russell needs to take himself to school! Russell needs to understand that he needs more than speed to be a top fighter. He should've learned a valuable lesson thinking his speed would beat lomo. Where was all these guys before lomo moved up?
                    um valdez is a bum compared to loma... Get your eyes checked.... Valdez gasses out after 4 rounds.... Gary would school him

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                    • JASON SHAW
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by bigstomps
                      everytime you open your mouth something ****** comes out of it!
                      But then again you are an idiot who doesn't know boxing!
                      This would be a great fight but for you to say russell takes him to school then that tells me your a fool!
                      Russell ain't nothing special! Did you see how loma schooled russell?
                      Your just a nuttrider who has his favorite fighters and you can't stop swinging off their nutts! Your just a punk!
                      you bum loma is a legend compared to valdez.... Valdez is another hypejob mexican who has been fighting bums on top prank...

                      Gary would teach this kid some boxing lessons and then you will cry all night

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