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  • Canelo and GGG
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    #21
    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
    When Pacquiao was 29 he had moved up 6 times already. Like I said not saying Chocolatito isn't a decent fighter but he's not #1 P4P in the whole world not even close.
    Im not saying he his,but you rank fighters on base of how many times they move.Its not how P4P or any ranking works.
    P4P number 1 can fight only in one devision ,it depends who he fought and when ,and how skilled he is.

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    • Saigon Royale
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      #22
      I must say, I do agree with JMM. I always thought GGG was the better fighter. I didn't need the Kovalev/Ward fight to validate this.

      The fight between Kovalev and Ward was close but I still felt Sergey won so I wouldn't call it a robbery. However it did show me Ward is pretty one dimensional. The fight exposed more flaws in Andre's game then it did in Sergey's.

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      • Realizniguhnit
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        #23
        Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
        Im not saying he his,but you rank fighters on base of how many times they move.Its not how P4P or any ranking works.
        P4P number 1 can fight only in one devision ,it depends who he fought and when ,and how skilled he is.
        Not really my current list off the top of my head is

        1. Canelo - Pretty much fought everyone significant but GGG
        2. GGG - No one will fight him pretty much cleaned out 160 but for DJ
        3. Ward - Obvious
        4. Pacquiao - Obvious
        5.Crawford/Garcia - Either or just filling last spot

        No one is really running through weights with success these days which is why I said the last real tru P4P fighters of this era was May-Pac because they took on feared opponents regardless of weights..

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #24
          Originally posted by bambam182
          remember when you ducking boys said ward was ducking kovalev then he beats him and takes his belts and you guys are still sour. ROFL.
          Maybe sour because Dre got a hometown decision huh?

          Ward didn't beat sht.

          You can say Ward won with some "ring generalship", but the only man who was beaten and busted up in that arena was Dre.

          Dre probably still wearing his glasses for 3 weeks lol

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            #25
            Originally posted by Saigon Royale
            I must say, I do agree with JMM. I always thought GGG was the better fighter. I didn't need the Kovalev/Ward fight to validate this.

            The fight between Kovalev and Ward was close but I still felt Sergey won so I wouldn't call it a robbery. However it did show me Ward is pretty one dimensional. The fight exposed more flaws in Andre's game then it did in Sergey's.
            Yes but GGG is not the fighter to expose those flaws. He is simply too small for Ward, who hasn't ruled out considering a fight at Heavyweight.

            So regardless if he's better than Kovalev or not he can't beat Ward.

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            • Realizniguhnit
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              #26
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              Maybe sour because Dre got a hometown decision huh?

              Ward didn't beat sht.

              You can say Ward won with some "ring generalship", but the only man who was beaten and busted up in that arena was Dre.

              Dre probably still wearing his glasses for 3 weeks lol
              It is kind of crazy when the guy who landed more total punches in every categorie and scored a KD loses the fight. Part of the blame should be on his promoter who allowed 3 American judges to score this fight I'm not even a promoter and know not to let no shyt like that go down. Andre is an American Gold Medalist after all.

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #27
                Originally posted by Saigon Royale
                I must say, I do agree with JMM. I always thought GGG was the better fighter. I didn't need the Kovalev/Ward fight to validate this.

                The fight between Kovalev and Ward was close but I still felt Sergey won so I wouldn't call it a robbery. However it did show me Ward is pretty one dimensional. The fight exposed more flaws in Andre's game then it did in Sergey's.
                Yeah, but Dre isn't the defensive wizzard they pretended him to be.

                Dre got hit 20 times in 1 minutes by the same punch, when that sht happens to GGG, the whole world him a one dimensionnal bum.

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                • Realizniguhnit
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  Yeah, but Dre isn't the defensive wizzard they pretended him to be.

                  Dre got hit 20 times in 1 minutes by the same punch, when that sht happens to GGG, the whole world him a one dimensionnal bum.
                  Ward is a grappling wizard lol

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                    It is kind of crazy when the guy who landed more total punches in every categorie and scored a KD loses the fight. Part of the blame should be on his promoter who allowed 3 American judges to score this fight I'm not even a promoter and know not to let no shyt like that go down. Andre is an American Gold Medalist after all.
                    Dontae nation calls it a could have either way.

                    So you know his brotha Andre got a gift lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      Dontae nation calls it a could have either way.

                      So you know his brotha Andre got a gift lol
                      Really common sense though. Ward definitely wouldn't have won that fight in Russia, and with Ward being a Gold Medalist and 3 US judges I guess one could of expected Kovalev wouldn't get the nod in a close decision over here.

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