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  • #21
    Originally posted by butterfly1964
    yeah, and also that bigoted piece of **** corbett was one of james jeffries cornermen in the johnson-jeffries fight, and during the fight, corbett was yelling racial slurs at johnson. and everytime corbett said something nasty, johnson would retaliate by hitting jeffries, lol! and then johnson would lightly threaten corbett saying, "you want some of this? i'll take you on next if you want", lol! he should have. after he licked jeffries, he should have went up to corbett and beat the **** out of him, lol!
    Well Corbett & Johnson had a lengthy history of disliking, even hating on each other before the fight, and there was more than a few public challenges made by both fighters (especially from Corbett!) to engage in a boxing match in the few years leading up to the Johnson/Jeffries matchup...Going by the contemporary writings/quotes of the time, neither of them were particularily "kind" with what they were saying to each other and neither hid the fact that they disliked each other tremendously.

    But yeah, Corbett seemed to have had even more dislike more Johnson than vice versa, considering what he was saying in public print, how badly he wanted to get him in the ring even at his advanced age, and the fact that he was constantly offering his training services to any heavyweight willing to fight Johnson for the title, especially after the Johnson/Jeffries fight.

    Oh well...different times, though.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Yogi
      Well Corbett & Johnson had a lengthy history of disliking, even hating on each other before the fight, and there was more than a few public challenges made by both fighters (especially from Corbett!) to engage in a boxing match in the few years leading up to the Johnson/Jeffries matchup...Going by the contemporary writings/quotes of the time, neither of them were particularily "kind" with what they were saying to each other and neither hid the fact that they disliked each other tremendously.

      But yeah, Corbett seemed to have had even more dislike more Johnson than vice versa, considering what he was saying in public print, how badly he wanted to get him in the ring even at his advanced age, and the fact that he was constantly offering his training services to any heavyweight willing to fight Johnson for the title, especially after the Johnson/Jeffries fight.

      Oh well...different times, though.
      jack johnson would have knocked out a prime corbett in about 3 or 4 rounds.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by butterfly1964
        jack johnson would have knocked out a prime corbett in about 3 or 4 rounds.
        I would doubt that.

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        • #24
          johnson never extended himself. He was alot like Roy Jones at LHW. HE wouldn't knock out corbett in 3 rounds, kiddie.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Smokin'
            johnson never extended himself. He was alot like Roy Jones at LHW. HE wouldn't knock out corbett in 3 rounds, kiddie.
            Nope, nothing but "wishful thinking" on Butterfly's part would indicate that a fight between Johnson & Corbett (at their respective bests) would end nearly that quickly...

            Johnson would very likely win, but odds are that fight goes very deep into the night, and if scheduled for 15 rounds, odds are quite good that it would go that full distance.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Smokin'
              johnson never extended himself. He was alot like Roy Jones at LHW. HE wouldn't knock out corbett in 3 rounds, kiddie.
              why not? cause you believe them stories that them old fogies tell you about how corbett was such a dancing master and he could outbox anybody? back then fighters used to throw one punch at a time. corbett only looked good fighting against slow mummies like sullivan who only threw one punch every minute. do you think he would look as impressive fighting jack johnson, who threw flurries of combinations? i'll answer that one for you, NO!! so like i said again, corbett loses in three rounds or less to johnson, prime or not.

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              • #27
                what an idiot. Johnson would not exert himself because he never felt the need to. He was exactly like a LHW Roy Jones Jr.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Smokin'
                  what an idiot. Johnson would not exert himself because he never felt the need to. He was exactly like a LHW Roy Jones Jr.
                  before you start calling people idiots, you sshould think first. did i say johnson would exert himself? most likely once johnson hit corbett with some good shots, he would be hurt and it would be easy for johnson would finish him off.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    why not? cause you believe them stories that them old fogies tell you about how corbett was such a dancing master and he could outbox anybody? back then fighters used to throw one punch at a time. corbett only looked good fighting against slow mummies like sullivan who only threw one punch every minute. do you think he would look as impressive fighting jack johnson, who threw flurries of combinations? i'll answer that one for you, NO!! so like i said again, corbett loses in three rounds or less to johnson, prime or not.
                    Your very much misinformed about that era, Butterfly, because fighters DID NOT throw ONLY "one punch at a time" or "one punch every minute", and what video there is of Corbett (I've seen him vs. Fitz and also that footage of him & Courtney) clearly shows that he throws punches in combination or flurries...as is the case with any other fight that you will see from that era of the late 1890's/early 1900's.

                    Even the contemporary fight reports from that time describe combination punching, and although not as prevailant as today, that part of boxing WAS around in abundance during that time.

                    P.S. Do a search for the punchstats I posted recently from the McAuliffe/Griffo ten round fight from that era and tell me how those two fighters reportedly landing a combined total of 260 punches (according to the referee's counting of them via a clicker) over 30 minutes somehow equates to "one punch every minute"...And that's only the punches landed in a fight that was described as being not nearly as action packed as many of the other fights from that time.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by butterfly1964
                      before you start calling people idiots, you sshould think first. did i say johnson would exert himself? most likely once johnson hit corbett with some good shots, he would be hurt and it would be easy for johnson would finish him off.
                      Look, moron. During Roy Jone's LHW stint, Roy could of easily finished off his opponents. Fact is, he would rather be 'safe' and win a decision on the cards so he wouldn't have to take any punches. Johnson was the same way.

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