Comments Thread For: Duva: Punch Stats Show Kovalev Beat Andre Ward

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  • RightJabLikeZab
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    #31
    so Kovalev landed .8 more punches per round than Ward. that's the basis for him "dominating" to some of these idiots.

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    • Nay_Sayer
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      #32
      Compubox is essentially two idiots sitting at ringside counting punches with video game controllers. Anyone who takes Compubox "statistics" seriously knows **** about boxing..

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      • J Dubber
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        #33
        Originally posted by StrangerInTown
        Ward was inspiring but Kovalev was the victor.
        If Andrew Fonfara had performed in the same manner as Andre, he would not have been given the nod.
        The judges crafted a feel good, end of year, American tale at the expense of the Russian.
        I have a strong feeling that if we flip flopped fighters and Ward had the Knock Down, he would have won...

        Lose lose situation for Kov in good ol Merica!

        Nevertheless, that was Wards first professional loss in his career. Lets see if he can actually win in the rematch!

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        • The Hammer
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          #34

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          • skipwade74
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            #35
            okay Kovalev got screwed by the judges big deal why worry?

            Okay Kovalev got shafted by boxing judges in Vegas. Americans usually win in America. That is the American way. Go cry to ***** and the commies. Grow up.

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            • Deletrious
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              #36
              People talk about accuracy too much. If I throw and land one punch a round I'll be 100% accurate.

              It's a viable strategy to be a volume puncher, the important thing is to land the most punches and do the most damage, not whether you got their by better accuracy or greater volume.

              Compubox isn't perfect, but it's certainly evidence that the decision was wrong.

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              • r1onnie2
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                #37
                Originally posted by don larryx
                punchstats also show Mayweather dominated Manny..but the same posters who are now slamming Ward didnt care about that
                Exactly, punch stats only matters when their guy loses.

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                • filup79
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                  #38
                  Total punch stats don't really mean much. Fights are scored by rounds. A fighter could have a big round or two and land 20-30 punches in the round and then end up with landing half that the in rest of the rounds. He'll probably end up landing more at the end of the fight only because of those two rounds but yet get out landed and lose the majority of the other rounds.

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                  • youbeight
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Deletrious
                    People talk about accuracy too much. If I throw and land one punch a round I'll be 100% accurate.

                    It's a viable strategy to be a volume puncher, the important thing is to land the most punches and do the most damage, not whether you got their by better accuracy or greater volume.

                    Compubox isn't perfect, but it's certainly evidence that the decision was wrong.
                    problem is 8 rounds were decided by 2 punches or less, so the guy who often has the better defense, ring generalship tends to get the nod over the guy whos lacking effective aggression and missing shots. in those cases thats what allowed ward to steal some rounds, only 4 rounds were clear cut for both fighters at 2 a piece, in the 8 rounds decided by 2 or less punches, each guy won the punch total at 4 each.

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                    • Weltschmerz
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Yeah but why say that when it's clearly not the case?

                      A quarter of press row had Ward winning.

                      Plenty of fans had Ward winning.

                      A large percentage of the cards that had Kovalev winning were extremely close mostly by 1 point.

                      What does all of this point to? A very close fight.
                      I had it 116-111 Kovalev but I don't have a problem with people scoring it closer. As long as it's in favor of Krusher.

                      Listen, I have even thought of it in this way the last few days; we would likely have gotten a rematch anyway, it's a possibility, and hopefully we'll get a clear winner in the 2nd fight. Then we can put all this to rest.

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