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  • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    If you had any semblance of intellect you'd have understood that it wasn't about who won or lost.
    This is what I meant yesterday when I said it's impossible to have a decent debate about this fight or any other "robbery" cause this is all you're gonna get. Just b*tching and whining.

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    • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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      #12
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
      I don't think he was discouraged or affected by it at all, he thought he did enough to win and so do I. You aren't discouraged if you think you are ahead in the fight.

      He also said he wanted to prove he could outbox him (which I think he did) and if he turns it up a notch I don't think Ward survives the fight.
      It's hard for me to believe that he really thought he was doing enough to win and if that's the case then his corner is **** for not pressing him and putting some sense of urgency in him. The fight was a close fight and when you have the "deck stacked against you" then you need to go a step and beyond, fight with urgency and not let the judges "rob" you.

      Like in Pacquiao-Marquez 3. Marquez lost/ got robbed (whichever way you wanna call it) because Nacho kept telling him he was winning and Marquez just started jerking off letting Pacquiao into the fight.

      Like I said in another thread, in a fight this important you don't just "let off the gas" or try to "prove" that you can outbox someone. There's no time for experimenting.

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      • The Problem Child
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        #13
        WELL how'd that work out for ya, ******??!? Ya'll lost badly 98.6% of fans and major media scored it for Kovalev lol. Time to rethink your career creepo.

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        • xhiddenx87
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          #14
          what is this, some kind of a moral victory? Ward won, no need to try to sell us a speech of Kova was mad, couldnt get him out of there, or anything else...lets stop this nonsense...everyone has an opinion...but dude this Forum showed its true colors(I mean users) after this fight.

          I scored it for Ward...but with two swing rounds..you can make a good argument for both men to win the fight. That is why the rematch is needed.

          and responding to your question I think both men did his job , and no, kova just fought the fight he thought that was right...the same for ward..he knew ,and we all did, that he needed that inside fight..otherwise he was a dead man. We all saw that in round 2

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          • eco1
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            #15
            SOJ

            Son of Judges.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #16
              I think there's little doubt that Kovalev became frustrated with Ward's defensive style, his smothering and his annoying jab.

              I think after he dropped him he took his foot off the gas as he was in complete control, that was a mistake IMO.

              Whereas in the second half, he was trying to do damage but couldn't really do much damage thus becoming frustrated.
              Last edited by IronDanHamza; 11-22-2016, 10:59 AM.

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              • New England
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                #17
                ot's a heck of a lot more frustrating to eat a big, clean shot, and go down.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheNotoriousOne
                  WELL how'd that work out for ya, ******??!? Ya'll lost badly 98.6% of fans and major media scored it for Kovalev lol. Time to rethink your career creepo.


                  Why always lie?

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #19
                    Saw this in the related videos.

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                    • -PBP-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      I believe this may have been posted, but I want to discuss the emotional factor.
                      No right or wrong answers.

                      Do you think Kovalev got frustrated after he dropped Ward, only to see him come back stronger and faster as the rounds went by?
                      Or, was Sergey not affected in that way, and maybe neglected to press the fight because he didn't feel (or recognize) that Ward was in it and turning it around?

                      Personally, I feel it's a combination. Kovalev seemed to be confident after dropping him and got a little too lax. I don't think Kovalev was ever 'mad' or emotional, but I think he was discouraged that he couldn't slow Ward down or break him mentally.

                      Yes. I think the knockdown was a gift and a curse. It made Ward become more aggressive to get inside and score to the body while it made Kovalev a bit discouraged and forced to regroup. I think the wrestling, body work and missed punches ultimately turned the fight in Ward's favor as he was able to outlast him and win the second half of the fight.

                      The fact that Kovalev is looking for the KO in the rematch is good news for Ward because it will create more counter punching opportunities for him.

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