Wait it was the Russians doe. Hahah, what a tool. Maybe Haye Briggs will actually get made.
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Originally posted by Ryn0 View PostIt only helps you lose weight (and crucially maintain lean mass) in caloric deficit extremely useful if you are trying to make weight probably the most effective drug for anyone in the lower weight classes but absolutely useless if you aren't dieting. Also it's only useful about 8-10 weeks at a time. It's a bodybuilding drug, for when they are already at like 8% bodyfat and need to lose that extra 2-3% before a competition, not for people who are at like 15% and still have body fat to lose 'naturally' which Browne clearly has.
For a heavyweight you'd get a lot of the problems associated with bulking on clen, such as bone fragility, heart weakness, horrible shakes it isn't anabolic in humans you won't gain any more muscle than you would usually and it isn't a steroid.
Honestly it is the ******est drug to do as a Heavyweight.
Have you ever gone for a run after a 2-6 month period of bulking? That extra 5% in weight makes a massive difference. You're effectively carrying around a small weight belt with you.
Sumo wrestlers have more muscle mass than natural body-builders. That is because constantly being in calorie deficit means they can always have a positive nitrogen balance and always maintain that mass. Weightloss drugs allow the fatties to keep that muscle, while leaning down.
A drug like clenbuterol, that allows rapid weight loss without the normal effects of long term calorie deficit are extremely useful, regardless of weight class.
Perhaps not as useful as hardcore anabolics but then the excuses for those aren't so good.
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Originally posted by keith_head View PostIn a highly cardiovascular sport, you can't see how losing fat and maintaining muscle mass would be an advantage?
Have you ever gone for a run after a 2-6 month period of bulking? That extra 5% in weight makes a massive difference. You're effectively carrying around a small weight belt with you.
Sumo wrestlers have more muscle mass than natural body-builders. That is because constantly being in calorie deficit means they can always have a positive nitrogen balance and always maintain that mass. Weightloss drugs allow the fatties to keep that muscle, while leaning down.
A drug like clenbuterol, that allows rapid weight loss without the normal effects of long term calorie deficit are extremely useful, regardless of weight class.
Perhaps not as useful as hardcore anabolics but then the excuses for those aren't so good.Last edited by Ryn0; 11-22-2016, 02:07 PM.
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Originally posted by Ryn0 View PostIn the HW divison no. In every other division yes like I pointed out, look at Brownes body he has fat to lose. He isn't cutting. Hence why I said it was a ****** drug for Browne to take given the alternatives (EPO, HGH, Insulin, ******) and lack of benefits for a guy who doesn't cut.
Still negligent and after his previous experience should know better.
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Originally posted by Ryn0 View PostIn the HW divison no. In every other division yes like I pointed out, look at Brownes body he has fat to lose. He isn't cutting. Hence why I said it was a ****** drug for Browne to take given the alternatives (EPO, HGH, Insulin, ******) and lack of benefits for a guy who doesn't cut.
I agree that there are more useful drugs out there, and who's to say he wasn't on these alternatives too? If you get a good source of HGH, EPO and insulin, they're virtually undetectable, particularly if you're not a moron with the cycling.
It's like Jon Jones: do we really think he was just taking estrogen blockers? No, it's entirely obvious he was coming off a cycle, and the androgens weren't detected because the testing process wasn't robust enough to catch them.
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