are ward and kovalev really better than everyone else?

[-PBP-]

Pound for pound is mythical. They are considered among the best because of their total body of work. The only one that's in the discussion is little chocolate.

The rest of those dudes have the jury still out on them.

[DreamerUSA]

Well there are a few fighters that I think are more well rounded than either of them, but with the combination of eye test and resume its hard to not have these guys at the top of a p4p list. After Saturday they are 1a and 1b for me.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Until those guys decide to face other P4P fighters then yes, Ward and Kovalev are better.

Now, if Kovalev loses the rematch convincingly then it would be fair to put someone else above him in the rankings IMO.

[Damn Wicked]

P4P is all an illusion. It's just a foolish guessing game. People who give any credence to those lists are idiots. It's just like trying to guess if prime Mike Tyson would have beat prime Ali or prime Wladimir Klitschko. Everyone has opinions but the reality is they're only guessing.

Having said all that, both Ward and Kovalev are very good fighters.

[bojangles1987]

No one besides Gonzalez has shown the same level of skill while fighting the same level of competition that Kovalev and Ward have. And I'm not sure Gonzalez has ever fought anyone on the level of Ward and Kovalev.

No matter what criteria you use, they are easily 2 of the 3 best p4p fighters on the planet, and arguably the 2 best. Trying to discredit them after this fight is absurd, and everyone sees the bias in asking the question.