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  • #71
    Originally posted by Nomadic View Post
    Kov new specialty is the headlock.
    Well if someone keeps dipping below the waist and then moving in for the clinch, then yeah that will tend to happen.

    But you continue trying to convince yourself otherwise.

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    • #72
      The rage tears are hilarious. While Ward was hitting KKK with hooks, jabs, body hooks and jabs, he reduced crusher to jab and right hand follow. That's all he had, once he couldn't rely on his power he was lost in there. KKK entire strategy was to through at range and catch Ward coming in. Once Ward floated just outside that range KKK was simply chasing and missing.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
        "Before everyone loses their minds" is exactly what someone should have told Ward and Virgil before speaking. They sound delusional. FYI Ward doesn't fight inside, he grabs and fouls. If he wasn't an American gold medalist, the REF would disqualify him by round 6 fighting that way, and then who would be the one who got "stopped" from inside "fighting"?

        These guys are liars, cheaters, and hypocrites, calling other fighters who fought Kovalev "cowards" (wtf?) even though they're the only ones who needed over a year of special planning to get in the ring with him, and pretending they won when they got dominated. I have no interest in anymore Andre Ward fights. He didn't show me anything. Outboxed all night, scared to exchange, the only rounds he could win were from fouling because he had a biased referee, and he still lost. Overrated fighter. Floyd is a master boxer from the outside... Ward showed his actual boxing is very overrated. All he can do is use his advantage that refs will let him fight an MMA fight while only allowing his opponents to fight by boxing rules. Ward's only advantages come from outside the ring, from politics, from corruption. Take away his fouling and instead of losing 8-4 like he did, he either gets knocked out or loses almost every round.

        It's not my problem though. It's their sport. The Nevada Commission, the refs. It's their sport to guard. Not mine. I can't do nothing about it. So if they want to run the sport even further into the ground, that's on them.
        Well, if you're done with Ward and don't care about the problems with the sport, then I shouldn't waste my time giving a reply about him or his team. Hopefully, there are some fighters you may still enjoy and boxing hasn't lost a fan due to one fighter. Have a good one.

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        • #74
          I credit the Russian for stopping Ward's inside game. Crying about it is like saying you lost cause a fighter ran from you. You knew what kind of fighter he was before you got in there. So credit for seeing it and taking it away

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          • #75
            Trainers shouldn't do inteviews
            Even though I like Hunter, I agree. The new trend of attention whoring trainers is getting old...

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            • #76
              Originally posted by firstborn View Post
              Even though I like Hunter, I agree. The new trend of attention whoring trainers is getting old...
              new trend? trainers been talkin **** since the 1910's.

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              • #77
                new trend? trainers been talkin **** since the 1910's.
                Maybe, but they didn't have today's social media platform which enables them to annoy the **** out of everyone....

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by FrankieClutch View Post
                  I don't ever remember Ward or his team talking so much after a fight. I don't think they're taking kind to people calling it a gift.
                  they are trying to convince themselves that they really did win and wasn't a gift.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Edward90 View Post
                    Well, if you're done with Ward and don't care about the problems with the sport, then I shouldn't waste my time giving a reply about him or his team. Hopefully, there are some fighters you may still enjoy and boxing hasn't lost a fan due to one fighter. Have a good one.
                    It's not one fighter dude. I watch every fight, including the whole card. I saw Perez get schooled by Gamboa. I was happy to see him with a renaissance performance. Was happy for the dude. Worked his heart out. You could see he had gotten sharper, more clever. He boxed a masterclass against Hooker. Was ready to feel jubilant for him, a true underdog story.

                    Then he got robbed.

                    What about five years ago? Back then we were all waiting frustrated for the best fight of all time, Pacquiao-Mayweather, but Mayweather didn't want it at that time, as he has since admitted. It was frustrating knowing we had lost out on the best fight of all time, and even if it happened, the fighters wouldn't be in their primes.

                    But then you know what happened? New blood came on the scene, just as exciting as Pacquiao. GGG. And he wasn't even 30 years old yet. I was excited again! At least with THIS guy, we would get the superfights. GGG-Ward. GGG-Quillin. GGG-Froch. GGG-Chavez Jr. GGG-Martinez. GGG-Jacobs. At least this time, we would see greatness happen in their primes!

                    GGG is now 34 years old. Already seems to be gassing out in fights. Already seems to be on the tail end. Welterweight Kell Brook lit him up clean multiple times...

                    And guess what, five years later, we still haven't seen ONE of those fights. It would be hilarious if it wasn't pathetic.

                    Oh and we eventually got Pacquiao-Floyd. How did that turn out?

                    This is why I am fed up with boxing. I can scarcely remember one time we got the fights we wanted during fighters primes over the last decade when there wasn't a robbery or some other bull**** to ruin it. It never delivers. Boxing constantly disappoints its fans and doesn't deliver on its promise at all. I think the last time boxing fans had any justice was maybe Maidana-Broner or Rigondeaux-Donaire. Maybe Lomachenko-Russell was also two guys in their primes but Russell was either injured that fight or a little overrated, and it was lower weights, not much emotion or rivalry or stakes.

                    And it doesn't matter who you're a fan of! Boxing has let down EVERY FAN no matter who they like!

                    Are you a Wilder fan? He came on the scene seven years ago or so, STILL hasn't fought ANY of the top guys you wanted to see him fight.

                    Joshua fan? Still no Klitschko, Fury, or Wilder fight.

                    Fury fan? He finally fought Klitschko in a terrible fight, then the rematch got delayed for a year, now it's not happening.

                    Stevenson fan? Before the Kovalev-Ward debacle it was all about Kovalev-Stevenson. That didn't happen either!

                    Beterbiev fan? Still nothing.

                    Quillin fan? He fought one good fight after a 2 year build-up, Jacobs, that lasted one round and he hasn't been heard from since except to say he shouldn't have to fight GGG unless he gets 50 million dollars.

                    Jacobs fan? He just made GGG not able to fight this year by stalling negotiations. Boxing insiders keep telling people in the know it's because "man, that's just such a 'risky' fight for Jacobs... he probably shouldn't have to make that fight... too 'risky.'" I thought this was boxing?

                    Danny Garcia fan? Not one relevant fight since Matthysse 3 years ago.

                    Mayweather fan? He's fought two opponents his fans wanted to see over like the last decade, Canelo and Pacquiao, and one was at a catch weight, the other was when Pacquiao was old.

                    Crawford fan? Not one A-level opponent yet either except Gamboa who was way smaller. That was a great fight though! It was also years ago.

                    Mikey Garcia fan? Lol do I even have to say anything?

                    Rigondeaux fan? He got banished for beating Donaire.

                    Canelo fan? He got screwed with the weight vs Mayweather, did deliver the Lara fight, but then hasn't fought one live body except old, small Cotto since then. His career has been dead all year too.

                    Should I go on? The sport has become a ****ing joke. It doesn't deliver ANY of its best fights when they're hot, and the few times it does, the ref or the judges are bought off, or someone breaks their hand or their eye socket in the 2nd round, and then no rematch ever happens. That's what happens when the great fights are made so rarely, and with so much bull**** behind them. It's a joke. Boxing is broken. Click the link in my sig to see the definition of a paid off referee in the biggest fight of the year. The sport is a joke.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      Perfect post. Thumbs up.
                      Thanks, appreciate it. This sport has become a joke. Just made another post about how NONE of the best fights are happening, and when they do, rarely, boxing ruins it. Has ONE mega event actually happened in the last DECADE with prime fighters, who didn't get injured in the fight or get robbed or have a bad referee? It happens EVERY TIME.

                      Wilder hasn't delivered any fights we've wanted and he's been on TV for like seven years. Fury had one **** fight with Klitschko, then nothing. Joshua still not delivering the best fights. Stevenson ducked Kovalev. Beterbiev nothing. Danny Garcia nothing for years. Quillin had one round against a good opponent, after two years of build up, then nothing. Jacobs still ducking GGG. Rigondeaux has been ducked since Donaire. Floyd delivered two good matchups, Canelo and Pacquiao, but one at a catch weight, one when Pac was old. Cotto held the middleweight title hostage didn't fight GGG. Canelo same thing. Martinez got injured then fought Cotto instead of GGG then retired. Mikey Garcia retired to duck Gamboa and still hasn't fought anyone.

                      You could go on for days. Besides like Lomachenko, Chocolatito, and GGG and Kovalev who have TRIED to fight the best but been ducked, NO ONE at the pinnacle of the entire spot is regularly delivering. Abner Mares is now but he let politics steal the Rigondeaux fight away and since then he hasn't been at the pinnacle of the sport so it's not as interesting.

                      The sport is dead. It's broken. It doesn't function anymore at all. It still makes money sometimes, in rare circumstances, but as a sport it is completely broken. The best, relevant fights don't happen, and when they do, referees do not enforce the rules, judges are bought off, and so on. It's a joke. It never works out. The last time a big fight happened with prime fighters that actually functioned properly was like Maidana-Broner.

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