Let's talk about Round 10

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  • Silky-Flow
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    #11
    I just watched this round again and for me Ward took it with better accuracy and his demeanour was one of a fighter that was in control. Sometimes when a round is close it all comes down to who's showing more confidence in that ring and to me Ward was the boss in there at that time.

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    • Cutthroat
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      #12
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      So what you are saying is. "Kovalev did little in the round and Ward did almost nothing in the round, so it is a round for Ward."

      No, Ward obviously landed the cleaner, harder shots that round. Kov's punches outside of a few jabs were completely ineffective, couldn't cut off the ring while Ward was countering him.

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      • SN!PER
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        #13
        To say that Ward won this clearly is really a stretch.

        At most I could see someone scoring it 10-10.

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        • Cutthroat
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          #14
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps

          the dude literally just suggested that because (he thinks) a punch had no power, it shouldn't count.


          They didn't have power lmao, Kov's arm was fully extended both times, you're ignoring the quality of the shots, Ward landed more. If you think the jabs at :45 are neck snapping like OP did, you're delusional, it's why you thought Kov won, he didn't.

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          • HanzGruber
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            #15
            Here's a link to it. Around 57 min is rd 10. Watching it again it is very close. I gave it to lov when I last watched it. It's also the round where lampley says "hard right hand" at the end of the round and the replay shows he completely missed

            http://fight-bb.com/Watch/2016/11/20...rd-2016-11-19/

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #16
              Originally posted by Silky-Flow
              I just watched this round again and for me Ward took it with better accuracy and his demeanour was one of a fighter that was in control. Sometimes when a round is close it all comes down to who's showing more confidence in that ring and to me Ward was the boss in there at that time[/B].
              Yeah, it does. We all have a kinda narrative about how the ebb and flow of the fight is going, who looks most confident, who we believe is on the ascendant etc ... and this (as do all the little stories we tell ourselves to make sense of life) inevitably colours how we perceive events. Problem is how do we know our 'story' is the right one? Some folk saw Ward as being confident and comfortable in the later rounds, others saw him just barely doing enough to hold Kovalev at bay. There ain't one viewpoint that is right or wrong, but it does make sense of the sharply different takes of the same event.

              My take is that Dre did grow in confidence throughout the fight, but was never really in command, Sergei looked like he never entertained the slightest doubt that he was in control, even though he really couldn't quite exert his will over Ward in the second half of the fight. Maybe he could have used a bit of a rocket up the ass to seal the deal.

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              • LoadedWraps
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                #17
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                They didn't have power lmao, Kov's arm was fully extended both times, you're ignoring the quality of the shots, Ward landed more. If you think the jabs at :45 are neck snapping like OP did, you're delusional, it's why you thought Kov won, he didn't.
                It doesn't matter how much power you think it had dummy, that's the point. clean landed punches count. There is no "if" about it.


                And if i'm delusional for scoring (a razor close) fight a way you didn't/disagree with then half of the boxing world/public is delusional.

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                • Chrismart
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                  #18
                  From the scorecards posted in the scorecard thread, a quick glance shows that of the 56 scorecards posted to date, 50 of them have Kovalev winning the 10th.

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                  • Scary
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                    #19
                    Also rewatched it, still gave it to Kovalev. Could go either way or could be scored 10-10 making it a draw.

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                    • SkillspayBills
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                      It doesn't matter how much power you think it had dummy, that's the point. clean landed punches count. There is no "if" about it.


                      And if i'm delusional for scogring (a razor close) fight a way you didn't/disagree with then half of the boxing world/public is delusional.
                      Uhhh it's clean EFFECTIVE punches. It's why if I land 5 pitty pat pinches and someone else lands one clean hard right hand they win the round. Ward landed the majority of the clean and effective punches in the 10th.

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