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  • sugar ray lenrd
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    #41
    Originally posted by TheCell8
    There is proof that he cheated against Mosley, but there is no proof that he cheated against Cotto.

    Cotto just couldn't handle the pressure and took a knee, it happens.
    Of course it happens, but be honest watch that fight again & tell me after watching it that it doesn't cross your mind...

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      #42
      Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
      Of course it happens, but be honest watch that fight again & tell me after watching it that it doesn't cross your mind...
      Not at all. I'll give you a better example. Go watch their rematch.

      Margarito had the same type of success and Cotto was fading and basically got lucky that the ref stopped the fight. At that point Margarito's eye was blown up.

      But the rematch pretty much confirmed that Cotto can't handle that type of style.

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        #43
        Originally posted by TheCell8
        Not at all. I'll give you a better example. Go watch their rematch.

        Margarito had the same type of success and Cotto was fading and basically got lucky that the ref stopped the fight. At that point Margarito's eye was blown up.

        But the rematch pretty much confirmed that Cotto can't handle that type of style.
        Pac fight showed it to,but in the rematch with Margarito Cotto handle shhots better cuse he was prepared physicly better he wasnt as chiny as in 1 .also he wasnt moveing so much,Unnecessary movement was killing him,no clinches etc.

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          #44
          Originally posted by TheCell8
          Not at all. I'll give you a better example. Go watch their rematch.

          Margarito had the same type of success and Cotto was fading and basically got lucky that the ref stopped the fight. At that point Margarito's eye was blown up.

          But the rematch pretty much confirmed that Cotto can't handle that type of style.
          I totally disagree with you in the first fight Cotto was having success itis however a different story once that plaster started hardening around the 6,7, 8 & 9th rounds. Now let's talk boxing, I believe Margar-Cheato would not have been able to keep Cotto off of him, but when your facing someone with loaded gloves & happens to have one of the best uppercuts in the game that will do too much damage. If you've ever been in the ring before youwould know it's one thing to get hit by a hard puncher, but it's something else if the guy gloves are loaded. Happen to me once in the amatuers & let me tell you, you start to feel all there punches, the ones on your arms,back,hips & thighs but the ones to your face hurts like hell. When you fight normally the punches to the face & head don't hurt.
          Dude, why would you use them against a faded Mosely & not against one of the hardest undefeated hitters in your division like Cotto?

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            #45
            Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
            I totally disagree with you in the first fight Cotto was having success itis however a different story once that plaster started hardening around the 6,7, 8 & 9th rounds. Now let's talk boxing, I believe Margar-Cheato would not have been able to keep Cotto off of him, but when your facing someone with loaded gloves & happens to have one of the best uppercuts in the game that will do too much damage. If you've ever been in the ring before youwould know it's one thing to get hit by a hard puncher, but it's something else if the guy gloves are loaded. Happen to me once in the amatuers & let me tell you, you start to feel all there punches, the ones on your arms,back,hips & thighs but the ones to your face hurts like hell. When you fight normally the punches to the face & head don't hurt.
            Dude, why would you use them against a faded Mosely & not against one of the hardest undefeated hitters in your division like Cotto?
            you dont feel punches to the face ? wow you tough,someone loaded gloves in amateurs?wtf?

            It was not proven that he used plaster in Mosley fight,it was ****m who tricked comission,there was no plaster,at all.I saw much more blood in fights with no plaster then in Cotto-Margarito 1.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
              Pac fight showed it to,but in the rematch with Margarito Cotto handle shhots better cuse he was prepared physicly better he wasnt as chiny as in 1 .also he wasnt moveing so much,Unnecessary movement was killing him,no clinches etc.
              The Pac fight showed it too??? Dude, Cotto was having success, what did him in was when he try to load up with a wide hook but Pacquia beat him to it with his right-hook right on the jaw. That is totally different from the Margarito fight. Now the Cotto/Margarito II bout you can see that Cotto was able to handle his puches better...And gee, I wonder why??? You don't prepare better physically to absorb punches...it just doesn't make sense. Calling Cotto Chiny while getting hit by loaded gloves is not kool bro...& Cotto was moving around more for the 2nd fight than the first one.
              Last edited by sugar ray lenrd; 11-17-2016, 02:58 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
                The Pac fight showed it too??? Dude, Cotto was having success, what did him in was when he try to load up with a wide hook but Pacquia beat him to it with his right-hook him right on the jaw. That is totally different from the Margarito fight. Now the Cotto/Margarito II bout you can see the at Cotto was able to handle his puches better...And gee, I wonder why??? You don't prepare better physically to absorb punches...it just doesn't make sense. Calling Cotto Chiny while getting hit by loaded gloves is not kool bro...& Cotto was moving around more for the 2nd fight than the first one.
                So Cotto wasnt chiny in 140/147 ? he looked much better in rematch,bigger and stronger,and yes if you are prepared better you can handle punishment better,especialy bodyshots.

                He had success with Pac and he had it with Margo ,and when he made that mistake?he loaded up while being backed up and couldnt handle preseur,imo if not this mistake he could win with Pac.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
                  you dont feel punches to the face ? wow you tough,someone loaded gloves in amateurs?wtf?

                  It was not proven that he used plaster in Mosley fight,it was ****m who tricked comission,there was no plaster,at all.I saw much more blood in fights with no plaster then in Cotto-Margarito 1.
                  Dude i never quoted that here is what i quoted:
                  Happen to me once in the amatuers & let me tell you, you start to feel all there punches, the ones on your arms,back,hips & thighs but the ones to your face hurts like hell.

                  Then I mentioned:
                  When you fight, normally the punches to the face & head don't hurt (meaning without loaded gloves)

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
                    Dude i never quoted that here is what i quoted:
                    Happen to me once in the amatuers & let me tell you, you start to feel all there punches, the ones on your arms,back,hips & thighs but the ones to your face hurts like hell.

                    Then I mentioned:
                    When you fight, normally the punches to the face & head don't hurt (meaning without loaded gloves)
                    Wait im not native speaker,did you just said that punches in loaded Gloves dont hurt to the face? did you fought with someone with loaded gloves? if no how do you know how it fell?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
                      Facts??? GTFOH with that crap. Then why did they report it? Let me take a guess, they wanted to ruin Margo-Cheato's image? Right the Lochness monster & bigfoot are celebrating thanksgiving over Elvis house...yeah ...ok...
                      what I quoted is exactly what happened. It's what the people responsible for the hearing heard.

                      If you know otherwise, you can tell me. If not then you're just hating for the sake of hating.

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