Super Middleweights better than Joe Calzaghe?

[bluzi]

Ward
Hopkins
Toney
Darrell (both)
Bayou jack

Holy **** you are dumb as a f***k

[Mr. Objectivity]

Joe toyed with a near prime RJJ and put to bed the myth of who is better. If Joe wasn't old and his reflexes shot he would've bodybagged Roy that night.

easy there tiger....

[OllieA]

You don't know shit, log out and don't come back.

Explain then lol

[Sid-Knee]

Ward dominated Kessler, Kessler was getting roughed up in the clinches because he couldn't fight out of them which he could've. He lost the battle of the jabs immediately, he couldn't cut off the ring, he couldn't avoid Ward's power punches either. He made Kessler look amateurish, Ward beats him 10/10.

Bika-Ward was not that close especially after Ward adjusted, I watched the fight, Ward got nailed with a hard left in round 3 or so, after that he shut off Bika's head attack completely. All Bika could do was land occasional body shots in exchange for head shots, whereas Calzaghe was eating head shots all night.

Joe got dropped by Hopkins AND RJJ. The timing was right? As if other boxers are unable to time a punch, I'd pick Ward to drop him at least once.

Joe struggled with Reid, he struggled with Byron Mitchell too. Again, Reid, Mitchell, Bika, all are able to go toe to toe with Calzaghe and push him, but you want to crown this guy king?

Can you imagine the shyt Ward would get struggling with Byron Mitchel or Reid?

Ward should have been DQ'd. His performance was a disgrace against Kessler. I don't want to hear coulda woulda. The fact is he didn't in a clean manner.

Ward didn't adjust against Bika. Bika ran out of steam from being rusty after being out for 18 months. You really should watch that fight again. It was close for all 12 rounds. Unlike the Calzaghe fight where he dominated from start to finish.

Ward couldn't drop a shot to pieces Miranda who had a glass chin. In fact he doesn't drop hardly anyone. So he isn't dropping someone with a great chin. That's delusional.

Calzaghe didn't struggle with Reid either. At no point was he looking like he was going to lose. It was a clear win. And against Byron the only success he had was dropping Joe. That was it.

And all this crap coming from the idiot who claims that Joe is overrated BECAUSE he was dropped by Jones and Hopkins, whilst defending Ward and claiming he'd beat Joe even though Ward was dropped by Boone and badly wobbled by a complete nobody. That's your typical American logic right there. ******ed.

Congratulations on that spaz becoming your president as well. You clearly deserve him.