Floyd's inability to land neckcrunching right hands on Pac like everyone else

[Lester Tutor]

Floyd was able to rattle Pac out of shell stance with overhand hooks. Made Pac look levels below.

[koolkc107]

more reasons why manny lost. judging manny against manny from other fights instead of judging what happened in the actual fight. who landed cleaner punches etc...it was manny didn't do this manny didn't do that.

What happened in the fight was so clear Stevie Wonder could see it.

Floyd put on a boxing clinic.
Floyd landed more punches.
Floyd landed more hard punches.
Floyd did to Manny what he does to all his opponents.

And BTW, the OP is comparing (incorrectly, I would say) what happens to Manny in other fights versus what happened in that one.

Go figure.

[daggum]

I have never bought into the theory that Floyd was in 2nd gear if that is what you are implying. It was as much about what Pacquiao was doing that also didn't allow Floyd to build offensively. They nullified each other, Floyd could see the traps Pac was setting for the most part, and he didn't want to put himself in harms way.

THAT is as much about Pacquiao being very good, as it is about Floyd not taking risks.

floyd didn't want to take risks and commit himself because pac was too fast and was catching him cleanly. therefore floyd's punches often came up short or just barely grazed pac(not scoring clean punches) floyd was able to keep distance pretty well but he simply wasn't able to land the scoring punches. that was what pac was doing by having good defense on the outside and timing floyd with clean shots. pac wasn't able to do it that often becaues he had to be weary of getting caught but he managed to somehow avoid getting hit clean and hit floyd cleaner. i thoguht that was what boxing was about? but i gues its about pac should have kept throwing punches against marg and since he didn't he loses.

[Johnwoo8686]

I only saw Vargas snap Manny's had back once. Manny seemed far more comfortable against Vargas than he did against Mayweather.

I will say this: Floyd did just enough to keep Manny honest, he never tried to actively hurt Manny at any point in the fight. Sometimes a well timed shot can be just as effective as a haymaker.

[daggum]

What happened in the fight was so clear Stevie Wonder could see it.

Floyd put on a boxing clinic.
Floyd landed more punches.
Floyd landed more hard punches.
Floyd did to Manny what he does to all his opponents.

And BTW, the OP is comparing (incorrectly, I would say) what happens to Manny in other fights versus what happened in that one.

Go figure.

well i've seen the fight many times and he didn't land harder punches. he only landed more by a couple puches if and only if you count every graze, touch, and push off he did. i did my own compubox so i know and grazes, touches, and push offs probably shouldn't count as clean punches anyway.

so when you have a roudn that is even in total punches landed like 7,8,9(the hardest rounds to score) but most of pacs are power shots and most of floyds are jabs and on top of that pacs shots land flusher i just dont see why you would give those rounds to floyd. cant see how thats being fair.

[koolkc107]

well i've seen the fight many times and he didn't land harder punches. he only landed more by a couple puches if and only if you count every graze, touch, and push off he did. i did my own compubox so i know and grazes, touches, and push offs probably shouldn't count as clean punches anyway.

so when you have a roudn that is even in total punches landed like 7,8,9(the hardest rounds to score) but most of pacs are power shots and most of floyds are jabs and on top of that pacs shots land flusher i just dont see why you would give those rounds to floyd. cant see how thats being fair.

It sounds like you saw what you wanted to see.

The vast majority of the people who were there, the vast majority of those who have seen the fight several times know that Manny was schooled like never before.

Mayweather turned one of the greatest offensive fighters in the history of the sport into a tentative, almost amateurish noncombatant.

It was an easy fight to score.

[WesternChamp]

its because floyd is shot.

[bojangles1987]

Mayweather committed to nothing against Pac. He threw only to score points, not to hurt. You could tell the respect and fear he had.

[bojangles1987]

I don't think Floyd showed that massive difference in skills with pacquaio that he usually shows with other opponents towards the end of the fight. It's weird for me but when I watch the entire fight it's like I give it to Floyd because he did barely enough to win and limited manny to doing anything or manny just being limited himself.

But if I haven't watched the fight in a while I can't remember Floyd doing anything and only remember the flurry's manny landed on Floyd.

Yeah, there was no "massive" difference between the two. Both looked pretty diminished, and Mayweather just touched Pac enough to grab most of the rounds.

[GrandpaBernard]

I only saw Vargas snap Manny's had back once. Manny seemed far more comfortable against Vargas than he did against Mayweather.

I will say this: Floyd did just enough to keep Manny honest, he never tried to actively hurt Manny at any point in the fight. Sometimes a well timed shot can be just as effective as a haymaker.

Mayweather committed to nothing against Pac. He threw only to score points, not to hurt. You could tell the respect and fear he had.

exactly. Floyd showed him too much respect on route to the 10-2/9-3 victory.

I think the mindset was biggest fight of my career will take the most secure route to victory.